All we ever use to use where spoons & stick baits. I have tackle boxes full of them! We never had a worm or worm harness on the boat. Used spoons off riggers ,dipsy's, jets always worked. We would release them off the riggers & let them flutter up & 90% of the time a fish would hit it. Most all were 2"-4" spoons,, needle fish, NK,scorpion they all worked. I don't know why they wouldn't work now. I keep saying I am going back to them but I can't seem to break away from the worm harnesses. I swear next summer for sure!