Hey Thanks for the info. I went out last night on the 24th, went NE out of E 185th. Everyone coming in said they could not find them and were 60-72 feet out. I stopped at 44 fow and started trolling NE, HUGE school at 46.7 to 47.8 off Euclid Hsp. I was running 4 oz weights 110 and 85 ft back, also running jet 40's at 100 and 90 ft back. Fish were in about the 37 to 40 fow range. No fish but the marks were incredible, Never seen them stacked up like that before. I think my problem is I was trolling to fast. I can not seem to slow my boat down enough with out a a plate on the motor or something. My speed ended up on GPS to be 2.6 so I think I need to get it to 1.5 to 1.8. I got a trolling motor front mount but can be hard to opperate while trying to run 4 lines with another person in the boat. Hopefully I will get them this weekend. Off the water at 10 PM, lines were only in the water from 8:30 PM till 9:45. Pretty slow was the word at the doscks but everyone else was really deep.