Im headed to lorain next week for vacation. I fish lorain quite a bit past few years. I Know stick baits are the go to now. I have tried stick baits including this year with very poor success. I always wonder why. I have to think there must be a trick to it. Last week an unassisted Erie Deerie on a long line outfished them Trolling big time at Kelly’s. I ran shallow to deep. Didn’t matter. not a single stick bait fish.