If you can't find shiners at Hi-Way or Rickards, check BayView (419) 684-5750, on the other side of the bay just down from Terry's Tavern (or whatever it's called now, I heard it sold..) BayView has been pretty consistent with the emeralds this year. We perch'd off Lakeside last weekend to stay out of the wind, and did pretty good. Most fish 7-10", one was 13 3/8". Walleye? East of Cedar Point is the best I've heard of lately, but there hasn't been enough people walleye fishing to really track them down. Good luck!