Its one extreme or the other. I just came in. Had to run all the way out to west sister from point place to find water that wasn't brown. Then I wind up sittin in one spot with no drift castin in 28 fow. Wasn't feelin it so I packed up and came in early. It was more like a 3 hour boat ride. Oh well, maybe next time. Countin the days til my trip with Capt. Juls. "Woot! Woot! "