Thanks guys but I think I will just hold off this season. Nobody around toledo has any ice fishin gear left in stock. I am gonna save up some dough and get one I really want rather than settle for one. Its too late to get one shipped by sunday. Ill just brave what mother natures got to give. I have a clam high back chair. Its supposed to be 29 or 30 on sunday. Plus, I have a little natural insulation if you know what I mean.