I went out Saturday am and Tuesday night fishing and the water was surprising good up close. With a flashlight I was able to see the bottom of my 28 inch trolling bags. Saturday caught 3 in 2 hours in 6-8 fow and Tuesday caught 1 in an hour of fishing in 12 fow all west of the Huron pier. Even with the heavy winds it has been real calm close to shore due to being S or SW. Fish were caught on hj-14 and rip sticks 10-20 back at 1.3-1.8 mph. Hope this helps.