I was perching one day earlier this year with no success, our last stop we fished for about 1 hour and had 3 perch, we were tired of moving and just stayed there after about another 30 minutes it was up and down, no motor running, no chumming, nothing stirring up the bottom. we had our 60 fish in a hurry go figure. I'm not saying that stuff doesn't work, maybe the fish just turned on it was around 7pm.