Friday the 13th

[boonie]

Guy's.......Friends like that, you don’t need enemies

[walleye2go]

Hey you guys want to be buddies? Where do you guys dock at? I could use some help figuring some stuff out. LOL...WOW...

Greg

[Hoss928]

A little humorous to read about. But I'm sure it wasn't funny at the time.

The nerve of some people.

[wakina]

LOL: Island Runner, your post doesn't change anything that has happened to me on my end but it does make me feel better knowing that I am not the only one who has had a jerk for a friend! I eliminated my friendly fishing jerk from my list of fishing friends! He is done on my boat I told him point blank!

[ReelTime]

Guys...those kind of folks aren't friends. I call them sponges! You both have more patience then I do. I am always the first to help someone but treat me like that once and we are DONE.

Wakina as you know April 1st was the first time I had ever launched at Deep Creek. When we came out of the Toussaint river there it was so shallow I was concerned about getting back in if the wind picked up. I was showing less than 3 F.O.W. so what happens if it's a north wind blowing 3 to 4's?

[wakina]

Guys...those kind of folks aren't friends. I call them sponges! You both have more patience then I do. I am always the first to help someone but treat me like that once and we are DONE.

Wakina as you know April 1st was the first time I had ever launched at Deep Creek. When we came out of the Toussaint river there it was so shallow I was concerned about getting back in if the wind picked up. I was showing less than 3 F.O.W. so what happens if it's a north wind blowing 3 to 4's?

North or NE brings the water up quite a bit but the water between those large wave tops will allow your boat to bottom out in the sand with a thud so it can be a real P. I. A. when going out or returning.

[pap]

I've been self employed over 20 years and deal with the general public for most of the time, I've found that the folks that have the least will give the shirt off their back to help any one out, and those that have the most will cry about the price of just about anything I think they are above us everyday working folks! Just like a good garden it's time to weed these people out and let them pay their own way threw life. GREAT REPORTS FROM ALL THE MEMBERS HERE KEEP THEM COMING!!!!!! tight lines to all PAP.

[CATCHNRELEASE]

Your boat sounds awsome but it sounds like you fish alone alot in that big 32footer so have you ever considered downsizing to something that would use less gas or have a smaller second 18-20 foot aluminum boat for those days when you don't need such a large boat. $200 a day in gas would do in most fisherman (or their ol lady would do them in first). Filling up on a regular basis must be brutal. But then with Erie there always is a trade off with too little (safety issues) vs too big a boat (cost of gas). Anyone else out there with this same situation who has 2 boats for this reason? So what is the perfect size boat all around for erie fishing ?21 ?22 ?23 ?24 footer. I am curious on someone's opinion as to the one size fits all boat for Erie that fits safety needs and economy needs. Thanks.

[Island Runner]

CATCHNRELEASE, at this time in my life I would not consider downsizing. I completely updated every system in my boat. 2 new engines, 2 new transmissions, new wheels, all new wiring thru entire boat, new electronics, pretty much a new boat mechanically. I need this size of boat because I live 150+ miles from the lake and use the boat as a lake cottage as well as a fishing boat. But yea, with twin 195 gallon fuel tanks, filling up is brutal. I average .73mpg and that $200 a day fishing is a bare minimum. And the wife loves the boat. Lucky for me! We even were married on my boat. I had it before we met and I told her before we got married that my boat takes every extra penny I have to use and maintain it. She works full time as do I, but we agreed my money is my money, your money is your money. I pay all bills and her only bill is her Cadillac. She has no room or reason to complain.

And yes, I fish alone alot. More so than with others. My wife fished alot with me last year but still doesn't like it when it gets rough. She is pregnant at the moment and probably won't make to many trips up to the lake with me this year.

And in my opinoin, a 24-27 footer with a single small block or twin outboards would be the most economical, if there is such a thing as an economical boat. I imagine thats why most of the charters you see are running 27' Sportcrafts. Being I use mine to stay in for days at a time, wish it was bigger. There is no way I could afford a bigger boat, but its always nice to dream!

[Island Runner]

Wakina, I still know what you mean and how you feel. If you wanna read about a really bad day, read my post the Eastern Lake Erie fishing reports section under a thread named "lets talk about the bad days" or something like that.

Funny thing about this "buddy" is he used to fish on my boat quite a bit. But he is one of those guys who always wants to go fishing but never has the money to help on fuel. After too many free rides, I told him he had to pay. I can remember at least 4 time last year when I told him he must pay and when we would get back from a day fishing and pulled into the fuel dock, he would be broke. I finally had enough and said no more free rides and now its pay up front a flat $50. He thought that was ridiculous and quit asking to fish with me. Hell, I can hardly turn my engines on for $50 in fuel. A day of fishing is a minimum of $200 in fuel. I was eating the rest of the cost! He went a bought a boat instead. He called me knowing that I am up there every weekend and he knows no one else. I couldn't let a boat sink.

I believe what goes around, comes around. Boating fishing and cheap mix like oil in water. He'll learn he has to pay to play and pay alot more when its your own boat! No more free rides/parts/service from Island Runner!