Would like to know where your getting the large shiners was up there wed,thurs and stopped at a couple places and the shiners we got wasn't very big they were they were a bit longer than the ones we got last year for perch fishing. Me and river rat were not very far from cone reef thurs. and also tried getting people on 71 we had one person try to talk to us but they were to far away.. first day one fish second day limited out after we figured out how to fish for them.