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03-04-2012, 02:52 PM #1
I live in my camper part of the summer and freeze my catch and then transport them home maybe once a week. The skin on part does not bother me that much for the fish that I am bringing home. But what about the fish that I want to consume while staying at my camper. More often than not on the weekend we eat at least part of the fish that we catch right after cleaning them. This law will be hard to enforce and once in your freezer inside your camper they would need a search warrant to legally search it, an exception would be if they saw you carry in your catch and that would give them probable cause to search it. Your storage shed will not qualify as part of your home and could possibly be legally searched without a warrant if fish are stored in a freezer in your shed but I am unsure about that.
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03-04-2012, 03:38 PM #2
This law was put in place for the problem areas. Sort of like
probable cause. It is stated in the new fishing laws pamphlet. Fish you intend to eat, say that day, odnr ok'd that you can have clean fillets without skin. It is a big change and will be a tough one for people to accept.
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03-04-2012, 04:02 PM #3
So this is not just walleye but any fish? It is going to suck to clean perch, I always skin them since I don't want to mess with scaling them.
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03-04-2012, 04:19 PM #4
skins
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03-19-2012, 08:41 AM #5
Ok, so let me get this straight, I want to make sure I'm 100% clear understanding this.
I can limit out, drive home, fillet my fish (and when I fillet them, I also skin them). No problem.
However, say I camp at East Harbor or Kelley's for a week. Fish every day. Typically at the end of every day, I'd fillet the day's catch. And again, when I fillet, I also skin them.
With the new regs, I have to leave the skins on them until I get home? So then I'd have a week's work of fillets to skin?
If I'm understanding correctly, I don't understand how in the hell that helps them determine that I only took my bag limit. SO I have my limit of 30 YP, aka 60 fillets. What does it matter whether I have 60 fillets with skins on, or 60 fillets without skins? 60 fillets is 60 fillets is it not??
It is jsut another source of revenue, and not the solution to the problem of people taking more than their TAC. As everyone said, put ODNR at the ramps and check guys coming in. That would be the most effective way.Last edited by freddie; 03-19-2012 at 08:43 AM.
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03-19-2012, 09:02 AM #6
The part that makes the difference in mainly with the walleye. Most guys fillet the fish, skin them, and then chunk up into smaller pieces before bagging. In that case the ODNR has no way of accurately counting fillets.
I'm not agreeing with it either. It's a real paim in the rear for those of us who camp for 3 to 5 days at a time and then have to come home and finish the cleaning process.
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03-19-2012, 09:07 AM #7
I agree with Freddie. It seems like the only fishermen it hurts are the legal ones that follow the law. This does nothing to the so-called fisherman that take as many eyes as they can illegally. Stupid uneeded laws again.
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03-19-2012, 09:16 AM #8
Its just like gun control. They do nothing to actually stop the problem, they just make it tougher for us good guys to be law abiding, and to entrap us. These laws do nothing to actually curb the problem.
I understand chunking up fillets creating a problem in making accurate counts. If that's the case, just require whole fillets and not chunks. I know I don't chunk up fillets until we're ready to cook them.
The whole skin thing really peeves me.
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03-04-2012, 04:47 PM #9
I have read the law and even copied and pasted it in a post on this thread. Nowhere in that law or anywhere else on the ODNR fishing regulations web page can I find where the ODNR ok'd the part you are relating to as it would pertain to eating/cooking fish at your camper you had just caught that day. It concerns me because my boat is located less than 150ft from the front door of my camper. The point that I was trying to make was that no-matter what that Officer said at the meeting if you get a ticket it would have been written from the printed statute and that written statute is the only thing that the Judge has to go on, it is the law as written. If it is not in writing and in the books with an Ohio Revised Code number then the Officers statement as he or she stated at the meeting is worthless in a court of law and you would still be guilty.
Wakina
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03-04-2012, 06:01 PM #10
Yes, you are right. We told the officer that we did not like his wording. He said officers would you some discretion on this new law. Most of my customers get their fish cleaned at cleaners. I know that my customers are not gonna be happy about this.
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