Well after 3 days im convinced I am geting bigger perch on leaf worms... a few days ago I figured I would throw one on just to try it..things were slow so what the heck.. I was using a perch rig and a skipper 9 rig.. it was a mix what hook I caught thme on but the bigger ones were on leaf worms..have been doing the for three days now... had a minnow on top and bottom hook of skipper 9 rig.. leaf worm in the middle.. and the 10 plus fish were caught on the middle hook.. nice thing is you can catch several fish on one worm.. not baiting every time.. just food for thought.. good luck!