high drifter thank you for your response. makes me feel better..the thing is i love to be on the water,then friends and co-workers want to go.which is fine but they all want to pitch in and pay for gas and bait,which is great but i feel some pressure to produce some walleye..i know they like the trip and understand that this is my 1st year, i learn new things every time out which is awsome...i think its the money... i am far from a captin, i just like to fish.. thanks again and good luck