I fished last year October/November from shore Sandusky Bay Jackson Pier for the night bite which is from just before sunset till about 8 pm using deep diving bandits same lures I troll with using cast and retrieve medium slow just fast enough to get a wobble, caught two 8 lbs plus walleye and seen others who had several big fish . there were boats trolling just beyond our casting range who were netting fish also, I believe the depth there is about 10 feet or less some use higher running lures and I have tried them, but I liked the deep bandits and never got snagged on the bottom, actually caught fish when others were not.