I love it too, thank you. I want to learn all I can and the folks on here are a huge help. I have marked large pods if fish 6-12 feet down over 30 FOW many times. Like you said, I think next time I'll try a couple things. Run above them 1-3 feet and run one side of lines far away from the boat. If I don't get a walleye within 15-20 mins I'll just go back to the deeper fish. I just bought several more baits so that I have many of the same and similar to each other. I think I'm the past when I saw a definitive pattern I should have moved multiple lines to the exact same bait and depth? Last year on a 3 day trip I limited each day. But....every fish but like 2 we're 100 back on purple or 90 back on chartreuse. I rarely catch doubles so I think this year I will run more lines at same exact depth vs. all scattered at different depths? Also, I bought several new baits with white in them which I did not previously have. I picked up aa couple wonder bread (fruit dots) and more excitingly, I bought 3 variations from Slimshady. His baits look sweet. I see he says great for stained water. Will those baits also be ok in clearer water? I do have plenty of chromes and flashy stuff, I think I was weak for deeper running (over 20 feet down) and in murkier water. Thanks all