I like bottom bouncers too and run both, but last two trips for us the long lines out caught the bottom bouncers 3:1. Last night I dragged a bottom bouncer with a harness forever with nary a fish, finally switched the same pole to a long line weight forward and they started hitting it. Seemed to also do better with the rod in a holder rather than hanging on to it. And for some strange reason they didn't at all want it casting with a slow retrive even when you could feel it bumping bottom. Oh well, tomorrow might be reverse.