Fishing on Jon's boat;Submerged Docks at Foxhaven

[branhamautomotive]

I believe global warm may be a real thing, but it's been going on since the ice age some 10,000 years or so now. To blame all this water on it is hard for me to believe when we are seeing temps in the mid 40s still in june.

The record high water was previously in 1986 area, old times tell me they remember being high again in the 60s. Seems almost like it's part of 25-30yr cycle to me, but I'm not an expect. But I am tired of getting my feet wet ever time getting on and off the boat.

I know alot of boats are having to wait in port Clinton for both the draw bridge and train bridge which is frustrating. Just hope they wait and have patience and keeps their cool with others while they all have to sit and wait.

[pimplepounder]

Yes, I did'nt think about the bridge issue. That would be frustrating! That in itself is quite a measurement to consider. Not many years ago, the opposite was true regarding water levels. I imagine within a few years that same issue may happen again. I remember hearing many old timers talk about the floods of 1913. In Ohio quite a few people perished Over 420 and brought about a lot of flood control projects throughout the region.

[eriedeerie]

I believe global warm may be a real thing, but it's been going on since the ice age some 10,000 years or so now. To blame all this water on it is hard for me to believe when we are seeing temps in the mid 40s still in june.

The record high water was previously in 1986 area, old times tell me they remember being high again in the 60s. Seems almost like it's part of 25-30yr cycle to me, but I'm not an expect. But I am tired of getting my feet wet ever time getting on and off the boat.

I know alot of boats are having to wait in port Clinton for both the draw bridge and train bridge which is frustrating. Just hope they wait and have patience and keeps their cool with others while they all have to sit and wait.

The warming has been going on in lock-step with the amount of carbon being put into the atmosphere since the idustrial rev. You can literally graph it. Cycles are always present yes, but if you dont believe man has an influence, I guess you dont believe in science either. There is no controversy among scientists. Only politicians.

[pimplepounder]

With all due respect,

We are all allowed to have our opinions on things. Some of us have lived through many different scientific ideas on what was going to happen to the Earth. I do know that in each case I have lived thru, those who really pushed the ideas, stated that there was consensus and that their science was correct and could be documented.

Seeing that any of those things did not happen, it has caused some to have their own ideas and opinions, which is part of the beauty of this country.

I think we should let people have their own opinions on things such as the weather, etc. and stay away from political talk on this awesome forum, and save it for somewhere else.

My. $.02

[pimplepounder]

The warming has been going on in lock-step with the amount of carbon being put into the atmosphere since the idustrial rev. You can literally graph it. Cycles are always present yes, but if you dont believe man has an influence, I guess you dont believe in science either. There is no controversy among scientists. Only politicians.

With all due respect,

We are all allowed to have our opinions on things. Some of us have lived through many different scientific ideas on what was going to happen to the Earth. I do know that in each case I have lived thru, those who really pushed the ideas, stated that there was consensus and that their science was correct and could be documented.

Seeing that any of those things did not happen, it has caused some to have their own ideas and opinions, which is part of the beauty of this country.

I think we should let people have their own opinions things such as the weather, etc. and stay away from political talk on this awesome forum and save it for somewhere else.

My. $.02

[branhamautomotive]

The warming has been going on in lock-step with the amount of carbon being put into the atmosphere since the idustrial rev. You can literally graph it. Cycles are always present yes, but if you dont believe man has an influence, I guess you dont believe in science either. There is no controversy among scientists. Only politicians.

I'm not saying we and our behaviors haven't helped things along, but it's not something new. There has been rising temps for thousands of years, there has been more than one drastic cooling period in earth's history. Most of these phenomenons are cycles in one form or another. There are maximums and minimum and nature has a way to reset it self.

No different than rise and fall of fish populations, insects, etc.

I'm not hear to debate if global warming is a true thing, I'm just saying I dont feel like global warming is the root cause of the lakes high water level, it was this high in 1986, and then again in 60s. Yes we have a new all time high level but by a fraction of an inch, not by feet. And it's only an all time since they have been recording, about 100 years.........that's a very small dent in the timeline since the lake was formed. There is s good chance it has been even higher in the years b4 records were kept the modern way. In 15 years or so when we are are on the other leg of this cycle we will be complaining about how low the water level is.

I remember several time 5 or so years ago seeing the Portage river be nothing but mud with barely a trickle of water in the middle. Boats of 20-24 ft size were getting stuck in the mud and trashing prope. Now I've yet to see the water be in our boat basin this year

[LEfriend]

The warming has been going on in lock-step with the amount of carbon being put into the atmosphere since the idustrial rev. You can literally graph it. Cycles are always present yes, but if you dont believe man has an influence, I guess you dont believe in science either. There is no controversy among scientists. Only politicians.

As a scientist I say amen to that. There is no controversy among thousands of scientists worldwide

True, global warming and climate change and increased CO2 in the atmosphere doesn't cause any single weather event or any single cycle. But over time it does move the trend lines, increase frequency and intensities of events, change the temp highs and lows, and change long term weather patterns. One only has to go to Glacier National Park where the glaciers are mostly gone, go to Antarctica to see the glaciers falling into the sea, go the the North pole to see the ice and permafrost melting, go to the west where species are dying in their normal growing ranges. It is sad to see people who have never cracked a physics book think they know more than scientists who have dedicated lives and careers to the scientific study of the problem. One can debate what to do about it and how to solve it. But to deny it exists is to stick ones head in the sand, ignore the natural world around you, and waste precious time we don't have. I for one don't want to lay the world that will bring on my kids and grandkids.

[pimplepounder]

To assume someone has not read, or studied specific subjects without knowing them is not good form, and does reflect areas of other problems.

Can't we just discuss fishing?