40 Tru trips & trolling

[rickerd]

Branhamauto,
I'm just trying to get him started trolling. with only 2 onboard 1 usually has to steer the boat. With the fishing we've had this year, it is tough for someone learning to troll to take care of 3 or 4 rods. You on the other hand could probably handle 6 rods. or more!

But to your point, if he wants to compare one board next to another, to learn to read them with each other, then yes run 2 on one side of boat, usually Starboard so captain can see them better. You can also run 2 dipsy rods a side and read them with each other. But a Bottom bouncer will always tell you when it is hooked up and in 30 fow or more, usually a flatline is all you need.

This Bottom Bouncer has always been the first trolling technique I teach people because it is simple. Line to 6oz. bouncer, 6' leader to bait or spoon, let out line until you hit bottom, engage reel to set distance and you are trolling. (ideal line angle to water line is about 45 degrees. over 60 degrees is too much, so use more weight) This will put you 2 feet above bottom. If you really want to get down, let out a few more feet until you feel bottom second time and engage reel. Now you are bouncing on bottom and kickin up mud. bring on the walleyes.
Rickerd

[Framemaster]

Thanks, rickerd. I know there is a lot to this, and I'm sure as I gain experience I will start to learn the best practices. I appreciate all the input I am getting.

Branhamauto,
I'm just trying to get him started trolling. with only 2 onboard 1 usually has to steer the boat. With the fishing we've had this year, it is tough for someone learning to troll to take care of 3 or 4 rods. You on the other hand could probably handle 6 rods. or more!

But to your point, if he wants to compare one board next to another, to learn to read them with each other, then yes run 2 on one side of boat, usually Starboard so captain can see them better. You can also run 2 dipsy rods a side and read them with each other. But a Bottom bouncer will always tell you when it is hooked up and in 30 fow or more, usually a flatline is all you need.

This Bottom Bouncer has always been the first trolling technique I teach people because it is simple. Line to 6oz. bouncer, 6' leader to bait or spoon, let out line until you hit bottom, engage reel to set distance and you are trolling. (ideal line angle to water line is about 45 degrees. over 60 degrees is too much, so use more weight) This will put you 2 feet above bottom. If you really want to get down, let out a few more feet until you feel bottom second time and engage reel. Now you are bouncing on bottom and kickin up mud. bring on the walleyes.
Rickerd

[itsbob]

After trolling for a while,you will start to see patterns of what leads work best for certain lures or divers.We often have 3 people fishing on board,so have 6 lines out.We will run 4 inline boards and 2dipseys at a 3setting.We frequently run harnesses off #2 tadpoles.After several years of running the tadpoles,i remember several leads that frequently catch.The leads are 37,45 and 60.The dipseys actually run pretty close to the same leads as my #2 tadpoles.Last week 40 and 45 on the dipseys were catching.This season,we have been running stinger spoons a lot more off my #30 true trips(TT).One lead for my 30TT has been 65 lead.Another popular lead that worked was a 50 lead when using 3oz sinker with my harnesses in water that was around 40fow.One thing in common with the leads that catch is that the depth they are catching is 2/3 or 67% of the way down in any water I am running.In other words,if fishing in 30fow,make sure you have a lure at 20ft down.If in 40fow have one 26ft down.Works a lot of the time.

[sherman51]

I use 20# seaguar premier for my leader. in most cases a 6' to 8' will get fish. in rough water a 30tt will work much better than the 40tt. the 40tt will pull the board causing the board to run with the nose up in the air.

[Framemaster]

Thanks, Sherman51 for your input on the leader line and tt30s. Didn't even think of that, but it makes sense.

I use 20# seaguar premier for my leader. in most cases a 6' to 8' will get fish. in rough water a 30tt will work much better than the 40tt. the 40tt will pull the board causing the board to run with the nose up in the air.

[branhamautomotive]

I run 40tt behind my offshore with very little issue and use the new tattle flags.....they gave spring adjust mentioned going up the flag shaft.

I tried moving the weight forward, but found I got the board to ride better and pull better off the side by dropping the rear tow arm eye screw down about 3/4 the way down the back side of the board. This will cause the board to not be pulled down from the top, and allow the boards to ride more level and pull out better. I believe the brand new boards come this way. On a side note when running just cranks like bandits or other deep divers I bring the arm back up. If not the boards so far up they lay over in turns.

A few draw backs I'm seeing with the 40TT behind my boards are if you get a small fish and the jet doest trip it can some time be hard to tell. The flag is set a little tighter and doesn't show this sometimes and the board pull hard enough to not show on the rods, especially in some waved. The second is if the jet trips because of the pull of the boards it can be tough to tell,

Non tripping jets would dive back down on drive by hit and miss, and I think would surface better with little fish and might be seen at the waters surface dragging a short.

[Framemaster]

Hey, thanks a lot for the input! Would you say that the easiest way to start out is with 4 rods and 4 boards? Just trying to make sure I don't make a mess of it to start out. Or should I just try it with 2 boards and 2 rods to get the hang of it? Usually its just me and one other person on the boat at a time.

I run 40tt behind my offshore with very little issue and use the new tattle flags.....they gave spring adjust mentioned going up the flag shaft.

I tried moving the weight forward, but found I got the board to ride better and pull better off the side by dropping the rear tow arm eye screw down about 3/4 the way down the back side of the board. This will cause the board to not be pulled down from the top, and allow the boards to ride more level and pull out better. I believe the brand new boards come this way. On a side note when running just cranks like bandits or other deep divers I bring the arm back up. If not the boards so far up they lay over in turns.

A few draw backs I'm seeing with the 40TT behind my boards are if you get a small fish and the jet doest trip it can some time be hard to tell. The flag is set a little tighter and doesn't show this sometimes and the board pull hard enough to not show on the rods, especially in some waved. The second is if the jet trips because of the pull of the boards it can be tough to tell,

Non tripping jets would dive back down on drive by hit and miss, and I think would surface better with little fish and might be seen at the waters surface dragging a short.

[branhamautomotive]

Hey, thanks a lot for the input! Would you say that the easiest way to start out is with 4 rods and 4 boards? Just trying to make sure I don't make a mess of it to start out. Or should I just try it with 2 boards and 2 rods to get the hang of it? Usually its just me and one other person on the boat at a time.

I would not run just 1 line per side, it's esker to read if a board is doing something different if there is more on a side. If youhave 2 ppl I would try running 2 boards a side I like to try to keep at least 30 to 35 ft between my board, less tangles on turns

[branhamautomotive]

We use a strong swivel going to the jet, most of the time the 40tt has a duo lock on it, you can either tie straight to this or use another swivel to hook to it, and of course one down by the spoon, worm harness, crank bait or water you want to pull behind it

[Framemaster]

Thanks a TON for all the info and help!

Mike

We use a strong swivel going to the jet, most of the time the 40tt has a duo lock on it, you can either tie straight to this or use another swivel to hook to it, and of course one down by the spoon, worm harness, crank bait or water you want to pull behind it