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04-01-2018, 08:21 PM #1
Trolling with 40 jets and big boards
If I troll with 40 jets what is the dive curve for them? Also how does speed and type of line figure into this? If I see fish on sonar at 15 feet down how would I set my lines are far as running above them or right on them?
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04-01-2018, 08:39 PM #2
Line out depth
15 8
20 10
22 12
25 14
30 16
36 18
42 20
50 22
58 24
65 26
70 28
75 30
80 32
86 34
92 36
105 38
125 40
This should be close, line size will effect this
Try to present a few feet above marks your targettingFirst mate for Eyehunter Charters
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04-04-2018, 04:46 PM #3
When we fished with Pooh Bear charter,he had big boards.He does not calculate the release is above the water when he determines the lead for that rod.Usually,what happens,is that we get a bite on a rod that is further from the boat.When we reel that line in with a fish or not,we move all the closer lines out further.To take the place of the line we just brought in.Then we reset the line we brought in and clip it to the cord and that line is now closest to boat.
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04-13-2018, 02:06 PM #4
The fishhawk td arrived yesterday. I went out at lunch today and checked a couple data points at 2.5 mph in 53 feet of water on a local reservoir. On a side note, my new TR1 worked well and let me do this without messing with boat handling in 20mph winds. Line was Sunline 20lb which has a 12lb diameter. I checked the high end of the range first because that's where I thought the chart was wrong. 125 back was 38 feet with the fishhawk attached to the trutrip 40 and by sliding the probe to the diver, it measured 39 feet. On the western basin, I find that 45 back is often the 'sweet spot'. At 45 back, it was 20 feet using both methods. This is enough for me to say I now believe the published chart is correct. I'm not going to go through the motions of sampling any more data points. It's more time consuming than I expected. The fish hawk has a 'depth mode' that gives you temperatures every five feet plus the maximum depth down to the nearest foot. You have to change it to that mode for it to record max depth to the nearest foot. The next thing I'll look at is deep diving crankbaits with a snap weight. I'll only be able to tell where the weight is running. I really just want to figure out the setback to get a bandit and Reef Runner 800 running at 30 down for the times I fish the sandbar with a 2 or 3 oz snap weight.
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04-02-2018, 10:29 AM #5
That looks like a Dive Curve for #40 Tru-Trips.... Luhr Jensen Jet Divers run a much lower Curve....meaning it takes a lot more line. Type of line does figure in slightly...Here's the Dive Curves for both if using 30# PowerPro:
Code:#40 Tru-Trip #40 Jet Diver (Top Hole) 30# PowerPro 30# PowerPro Depth Line Out Depth Line Out 8 15 8 10 20 10 28 12 22 12 36 14 25 14 43 15 25 15 16 30 16 50 17.5 35 17 18 18 60 20 42 20 70 22 50 22 80 24 58 24 90 26 65 26 105 28 70 28 118 30 75 30 134 32 80 32 150 34 34 170 35 88 35 36 92 36 190 38 105 38 40 125 40
If you're pulling big boards, there is a slight rise in your tow line from the board to the boat. That itself will account for a couple foot of change in the water column. If you're marking fish at 20 feet, I would set my first line at 18-22 back, that's checking for high fish you might not see, or fish that want to come up to hit baits, usually in cleaner water. All others lines I'd set at 35-40-45, then see what hits. If all your fish start coming at 35 and 40, reset your other leads to that. Try a 37 or 38, splitting the difference...
Couple key things to remember: BIG difference in dive curve from a #40 TT to a #40 JetDiver... also, pull baits above the walleye. Suspended walleye won't usually go down to get a bait, they feed up. Bottom walleyes can be different.... they'll pick a bait off the bottom, but we're not usually trolling for bottom dwellers!
So, once you figure out the depth they want, then the color and type bait, along with the speed, then match it up with their preferred direction - you'll be whackin' em! Experiment a little each day, and pay close attention to what leads are catching.... after the first few fish, hopefully a pattern will start to develop.
Good luck!Capt. Eric Litton
614-679-2616
37' Tollycraft "Pirate Clipper"
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Lake Erie Fishing Charters
Lake Erie Walleye Charters
Lake Erie Charter Fishing
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04-02-2018, 10:31 AM #6
Sorry.....i forgot to mention I'm pulling #40 Tru-Trips.....
Capt. Eric Litton
614-679-2616
37' Tollycraft "Pirate Clipper"
www.eriecharter.com
Lake Erie Fishing Charters
Lake Erie Walleye Charters
Lake Erie Charter Fishing
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04-04-2018, 12:10 PM #7
all this is great info. keep in mind they are giving this to you based on the fact that you have calibrated your reels. so when your reel says you're 85 back you're actually 85 back.
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04-02-2018, 11:48 AM #8
Captain Eric covered your question pretty well.As for setting a lure at a depth to try and catch fish showing on your sonar.Your sonar unit may be a foot or two below water level when mounted at bottom of boat so the fish marking can be a couple feet deeper than marking if directly below boat.But if fish off to the side will be shallower than showing.So it is a range.Fish in clean water can come up 10ft or more to grab a lure.It is less in dirty water.That is why you want to cover the water column initially as capt Eric said.
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04-02-2018, 12:38 PM #9
Thanks for the awesome feedback. Anyone know the divecurve on bandits?
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04-02-2018, 01:19 PM #10Capt. Eric Litton
614-679-2616
37' Tollycraft "Pirate Clipper"
www.eriecharter.com
Lake Erie Fishing Charters
Lake Erie Walleye Charters
Lake Erie Charter Fishing
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