Thanks for the info. Yes they are in line boards. That's what I was curious about if it would be too much pull. Do you seem to be as productive with shorter leaders? I bought a bunch of pro eye blades from Jann's and put Mustad number 4 trebles on them, they have turned in points. They claim to be better for holding the fish. If the wind ever let's up I'll have plenty of tricks to experiment with. Thanks also for the tip on netting from behind. Makes a lot of sense! I grew up drifting and casting and I've only been out trolling one other time with a good guy I met on here and he invited me along with him so I have the basics but you may see some more dumb questions from me, so bear with me. Greatly appreciated, Thank you