I troll bandits, basically the same as troy1976 . I'm sure you can cast them but you will never achieve the depths you get trolling. I use 12lb berkley big game which has a smaller diameter than xt that the charts say get you to certain depths, with x amount of line out. I have never achieved the depths that the chart says ,because a have purposely ran over shallower water to see when I hit, 22' is the deepest I get. I have trolled them from 1mph to 3mph doesn't seem to matter what speed.I have not noticed a big difference 1 way or another.