Thanks for all the info! Now that you said that where bagleys,im sure I have a few in my bass tackle, I thought I remembered the name but wasn't sure there's so much stuff out there I tend to forget the older baits. I also have jets but I have the trip Z's ,. I never seen the tt until I was out there last week browsing through a local tackle store while waiting for the wind to lay, are they better than the trip z ? Also what about color choice in the jets? I have a 6hr. Run to get to heaven. Well I was sprouting wings on the way home LOL!