well heres how I figured out things in short order...I have never hit anything on that lake EVER, and I would think its impossible too if you just stay clear of crib reef and thats towards the islands and firing range area to the east, you will be fishing to the west, or at least thats where the fish are...I would put my boat in turtle creek, or wild wings in which is steep, go out of the cut to t he lake and just stay to the left, youll see a crowd for sure, I have a 30 ft maycraft center console witha 250 E-TECH and it says ERIE FEELING down the sides in big black letters, I stay at the camper 270 at wild wings when im in town, thats my home sweet home when im there from my home in Iowa and I travel there weekly during jig season, and you can always come and go with me for a time or two and stay as well, I like to party though and im in bed by 10 most nights and up at 5 ready to do it again....