We were running Torpedo Deep Divers ( Similar to Dipseys ) on # 3 setting 140 back, another one on#1 setting 141 back. another Dipsey at #2 setting around 130 back. In 64 to 70 ft of water. Also we ran 7, 8 and 10 color. We ran Bay Rats on one side and our own fabricated worm harnesses on the other. Some days the harnesses produce and other days the Bay Rats. I was running the Southtowns Walleye 35 special lure and Blue Budda. See Fishkiller (Jim) at Ultimate Outdoors of WNY for these plugs.