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    Hey Jim and Coach.

    Don't you love fishermen.????? we all have our ideas and practices that we're confident in. Jim, WOW you're having a great season and thanks for your insight(s) into your program. Here's my thoughts on our program, just sharing.....
    I use power Pro 30# as backer. My view is..... $6/10 in leadcore, $40 board, $7 Renowsky..... I want it back every time.
    Secondly, I have one of those fish hawk TD depth and temp gauge thingies.... What I have found and confirmed by running toward shore, is that at 1.7 MPH, our "Old" leadcore runs at 7ft. per color with no backer out. Then we ran test, by letting out 50ft. of braid backer, up the same hill, and averaged 8/9ft per color. Our thought is that the higher resistance (diameter) of leadcore causes "planing" when run top to depth, like a banana. Since Braid is much less diameter, it doesn't "banana" like leadcore therefore the leadcore, lays flatter in the water since there is less drag and "planing". Seems like simple physics. When in doubt go shallower..... is our motto. If you don't see them on your graph, it "Might" be because your cone is only about 4-6 ft around at 15 ft.on most units. Jim is right... we consider what we're seeing and move up if they aren't set up at 30,40 ,50 etc. Also, actively feeding fish tend to move higher in the water.... they're like cows.... they go were the food is. Cheers.

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    Jim/Dan,
    Very good information. Here is a little food for thought. I was watching a fishing show on cable. They were talking about leadcore, how to use it etc. They mentioned that say a three color could go deeper that 30 that we calculate. You can achieve that by letting out more backer. And you can go as deep as you like. What are your thoughts?
    I believe that there has to be a limit to the depth that you can go. ??
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    Quote Originally Posted by captainjoe View Post
    Jim/Dan,
    Very good information. Here is a little food for thought. I was watching a fishing show on cable. They were talking about leadcore, how to use it etc. They mentioned that say a three color could go deeper that 30 that we calculate. You can achieve that by letting out more backer. And you can go as deep as you like. What are your thoughts?
    I believe that there has to be a limit to the depth that you can go. ??
    Thanks,
    Not having ever tried that my guess would be that you could gain some depth up to a certain point and then it would just not be practical to fish at that length. Dan has mentioned to me before that he gets more depth with more backer out in his system and feels he can accurately place a bait at a desired running depth.

    Dennis

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    For all the doubters - we are on a win streak. 2 in a row.
    It's time to get hot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by captainjoe View Post
    For all the doubters - we are on a win streak. 2 in a row.
    It's time to get hot.
    lets the wins keep coming we are rooting for you capt

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    Default long day today

    Was slow today. Boxed two fish, 7# and 8.5#. Harnesses in Orange/Red/black and pink/black/copper. One on 30 jet 100 back on a board, one on a size 0 dipsy 112 feet back 2.2 mph on both, turning into the waves. They were hard to find. At the launch one fisherman said they used the riggers to get on the bottom on a hunch and hit three fish that they never marked in 60+ fow. Good luck!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Harsh Reality View Post
    Was slow today. Boxed two fish, 7# and 8.5#. Harnesses in Orange/Red/black and pink/black/copper. One on 30 jet 100 back on a board, one on a size 0 dipsy 112 feet back 2.2 mph on both, turning into the waves. They were hard to find. At the launch one fisherman said they used the riggers to get on the bottom on a hunch and hit three fish that they never marked in 60+ fow. Good luck!
    Cold front came through. With all that wind we had earlier in the week fish will be scattered. Did you try slower speeds than 2.2? Sounds as if the fish wanted a slower bait if you hit them turnin into the wind. Did they hit on the inside or outside of the turn?
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