fishon51 - I take it that you do not believe in it? A few years ago I was on a Charter in the Gulf off of Sarasota Fla. The captain said that we were over fish and we started catching them. He kept fiddling with something. This was before I even heard of a Black Box. I asked what it was and he just gave me some kind of off the wall answer. It could have been one. ?? Yeah I know that was salt water and this is Lake Erie but anything is possible. I hope the guy that you know has some input on this site to help us.