I use 10 or 12 pound balls minimal blow back usually for me . I'll use 10 # down to 50 ft and 12# deeper . I avoid the pancake style as per if they get out of tune / not straight they tend to wobble all over . The torpedo weights are the best on the market in my opinion and will give next to zero blowback and work great . I like the Blacks releases simple one screw adjustment and perch can even trip them. I run 100 to 150 ft back behind the weights with my baits and I get quite a few eyes off the riggers. If you need them or have more questions call Jim @ 716 796 5372.