Thanks for the comeback Skinny. I will measure my freezer inventory against yours. That was not the question. I need current info from north of Geneva. I was out yesterday and ran from 38' to 62' from Geneva to Ashtabula and saw very few marks and could only catch white bass. Nothing beats fresh, not frozen, walleye but even those are better than anything you find at the fish market. I saw maybe 6 boats working the 40' line but never saw a net move. If anyone reading this thread was on that line I ask, "What's happening?"