Also, as opposed to a line counter reel I bought Berkley Tracer braided line. It goes from light green to dark green every 2.5ft so every time you see light green end you count 5ft. I also put a special mark on the light green every 25ft. You can take a permanent marker and mark any light color braided line. I fish a lot of different water and don't have the money for line counter reels that I'd only use on Erie.