Got a late start this morning, with the winds hollowing friday night I was sure that they got the forcast wrong again, woke to find very little wind. So by the time I got all ready to go it as mid day, set up to do some trolling on west side of catawba. We had been getting some eaters in there while perch fishing and I had been seeing decent marks in 12 to 15 ft . We trolled for 2 hrs, fished from 15 to 60 back from 1.5 to 2, nothing. In fact almost no marks, tried perch fishing, even though the water looked like chocolate soup, on both my spots that have been productive all fall, nothing thete either. Hoping the last few days of winds just mesed things up, not that fish are all gone.