Just wondering what everyone's thoughts are on this special permit for nonresidents only. Are they trying to stop nonresidents from coming! Bigdan
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Just wondering what everyone's thoughts are on this special permit for nonresidents only. Are they trying to stop nonresidents from coming! Bigdan
Haven't heard what the money will be used for but I don't think $11 will hurt us much. Out of state annual license has been a real bargain in Ohio.
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Originally Posted by Old Wheezer
Don't really like it, especially after they had increased the non-regular non-resident license.Don't know what the intent is for money generated from the permit, but it should have been imposed on everyone IMO. Been easier to swallow if it would have been incorporated into the regular license fee, then to impose a special permit fee, because your a non-resident.If i iced fished it alot, it might be different. Campground opens in April, and i usually put my boat in, the middle, to latter part of April ( weather permitting ) ,so i guess, for the sake of one to two weeks to fish, untill the permit expires, i won't get one, as it's not needed from May till end of December. Michigan imposed a substantial increase in a non-resident license, a few years ago, and got their a$$'es burnt, because of decreased sales. Had to lower the prices the next year.
Its only good for 3 days, I'm from Ky and thats what I used last year but I think it was only for 1 day. Ky has a 1 day deal for nonresidents, $10, my brother used it every year when we fished Cumberland.
This eleven dollar permit is on top of a one day,three day, or annual license. It looks like they targeting the Jig fishing and river fishing, seeing its only January thru April
Where can I look to read about it? Looked in Ohio fishing regulations and couldn't find it.
I'm not positive, but the way that I have read this, is that it only apply to Lake Erie itself. No mention of rivers or tributaries.
Being a non resident myself, it does sting a little. But at the same time, if the funds go to launches and helping with invasive species, I suppose it's not the end of the world. Just won't be able to buy one more bandit.
Good luck, and happy Holidays
You must be confused. It wasn't implemented at that time. It begins Jan 1, 2019.Quote:
Originally Posted by drakefamily2
Beginning Jan. 1, 2019, a Lake Erie permit ($11) will be required for all Non-residents to fish Ohio waters of Lake Erie from JAN 1st_APRIL 30th each year.
**Money generated by this permit will be used for specified purposes related to the protection and improvements of Lake Erie, such as combating invasive species, securing public access and providing for fish management projects in Lake Erie.
I have no issue paying the fee to fish in the best fishery in the world for walleye the best time of year to do it. Especially if it is used properly to conserve our wonderful resource.
I don't either really, BUT imo it should be imposed on everyone, not just a select few ! It's like going to a gas station, and because your a non-resident , you're forced to pay more for gas. I'll pay it, but it's not fair !Quote:
Originally Posted by Capt Porkchop
I disagree. Us Ohio residents pay property taxes that support the parks.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mrwiggler
I have no problem with it, but it will just create a "Keep up with the Jone's mentality" between the States and Provinces. Some of this already exists.. Some day, when nobody can afford to fish and hunt, we will all become violators I suppose. That is what our founders would expect.. :)
Property taxes might help support parks, but ,more then likely it is a very small percent.I don't use them myself, but fees are charged for use of parks, and that generates money. I don't believe, if you read the code, for the newly imposed Lake Erie non-resident permit, that any monies are intended to be used for parks. I understand your point, but Lake Erie use permit should be imposed on all users. If i lived there, then i would expect to pay property tax,too. Thats just my thoughts.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eyezcrazy
If you use State launch ramps you are using ramps that Ohio residents paid for through taxes. I agree it is a small percentage but so is the $11.00 that non residents will pay.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mrwiggler
Hell $11.00 I would pay it I am a resident and don't even use public access. I have to laugh people will pay $14 for a custom bait but $11 to go improving our fishing:confused:
I don't use state launch ramps.I use the launch at the campground where my boat is docked. I'm assuming there is some sort of tax collected from the fees i pay for the seasonal lot i rent, along with the the dock space i rent.Yes, I also will pay the $11 lake use permit,along with the non resident license increase. I'm saying it should be imposed on everyone, not just a select few. I'll leave it at that. What will be taxed, or imposed next.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eyezcrazy
You don't see me buying $14 custom baits. I'm not arguing paying the damn $11, i'm complaining "WHO " is required to pay it. I guess with the non resident fees at $55.50 now, they should be getting a fair amount of money generated to go toward improving the fishery, plus all the non-resident boat registrations.Quote:
Originally Posted by wajski
I have been buying a annual license for over thirty years, and have no problem with the cost! Now a annual license is only good for eight months , 11 more for the other 4. I just think it is strange the way they are doing it. The nonresidents buying a three day license during those 4 months doubled,11 dollars to 22
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Originally Posted by BigDan
I believe the annual license is till good for the whole year ( not 8 months ), it's just on top of the annual license to firs Lake Erie in that specific time , non-residents must purchase an additional permit.Hell ya might be fishing somewhere else beside Lake Erie. Crazy-crazy-crazy. I'll have to re-read the code, but i thought that how it was.
Yes i know lake Erie only! but that's the only lake i fish in Ohio.
Ya me too......campground opens about the 1st of April, and i usually (weather permitting ) drop my boat in about the 2nd to 3rd week,right at the jig bite time.... so if i want to fish that week or so until May 1st...i'll have to get the permit.Quote:
Originally Posted by BigDan
Ohio annual non-resident lic will be 44.20 for 2019....not sure where you're getting the 55.40 from? Michigan charges 76.00 for their annual non-resident lic. So, we're still way below other states in that regard....even with the 4 month permit of 11.00 for the spring fishing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mrwiggler
I'm not sure what you're referring to when you say, "plus all the non-resident boat registrations? What do you mean?
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Originally Posted by Capt Juls
Sorry, i made a $.20 mistake.....$44.20 annual non-resident license + $11.00 non resident Lake Erie permit = $55.20. What i mean by "all the non-resident boat registrations" is revenue generated with all the non-resident boat registration sold. As far as Mich fees go, i quit fishing there when they raised theirs from $40 to $76. Somewhat of gouging if you ask me. I.m older, on a fixed income, so when it gets to the point of being too much....dollar here-dollar there, i'll hang it up. I enjoy it alot, and i spend alot, gas, ( both auto and boat ), food,toll road, camping and boat dock fees,boat registration, fishing license,etc.,so i generate some revenue to Ohio, i'm sure. Have a nice day !
Hello all,
I am a new poster, but I have lurked here for some time to see what is happening on the best Walleye Lake in the world. I was content to just lurk, but this thread finally pushed me to registering so I could comment.
I will not argue for or against the extra permit fee. but I'd like to offer a little clarification. All fishing license fees in Ohio go directly to the division of Wildlife and are used for management of the resource. They pay for everything from research, hatcheries to law enforcement of Wildlife codes. Ohio's fees are quite reasonable compared to many states. In addition many of the shoreline and boat access construction is paid for by excise tax on fishing and boating gear from the federal government. No, let me repeat no general fund tax dollars are spent on fishing or Division of Wildlife funding. Actually the politicians are always trying to steal our money. As for boat registration: boats are registered by the resident state of the owner, non-residents may use their boats in Ohio waters and do not pay an extra registration. If they register as an Ohio boat the fee is the same for all. I do not know the reasoning behind the extra fee, but the Kasich administration has raided the DOW funds and they are in serious need of funding. The money absolutely will pay to manage the fishery. This was once a dead lake if your old enough to remember, the Dow has done a miraculous job managing this lake. So it erks me to see mis-information posted. Believe me I am in a position to know absolutely what I am talking about!
Well said. As Jules posted from the Ohio Regulations "Money generated by this permit will be used for specified purposes related to the protection and improvements of Lake Erie, such as combating invasive species, securing public access and providing for fish management projects in Lake Erie." Small price to pay for access to the tremendous spring fishing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Southern OH Percid angler
I don’t mind a few extra dollars if it helps promote and protect our resource. I purchased a deer tag this year knowing I wouldn’t be able to hunt just to support our natural resources. I also agree with Jules and some others that non residents are getting a bargain in Ohio.
To each his own.
I have followed this site for years but this is my first post. First let me say thank you to everybody that does post and keeps me informed about Lake Erie! I have enjoyed fishing Lake Erie since 1977. When I consider the thousands of dollars I have invested in my boat, rods, reels, tackle boxes, locators, and other equipment, why would I let an additional $11 fee stop me from enjoying some of the most productive water anywhere? At least the Ohio DNR tries to manage the states resources to which I again say Thank You. While at times my wife might appreciate a GIANT fishing equipment sale, IT’S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN ANY TIME SOON!! With walleye at or near record numbers and great perch fishing, I hope everyone is looking forward to another great year. The only problem I see right now is, my boat is winterized (and people are still on the water catching fish) and it is too warm for ice to develop. Conservation practices are what allows us to enjoy the freedoms we have while fishing and hunting in this great country. While the people in charge of our resources try to do their part in managing them, I believe we need to be willing to support their efforts, even with our billfolds.
I think it's a great idea!! Actually it should be a 20$ fee! If you don't like it fish in your own state!! Seriously if anyone would let an 11$ fee stop them they have no business making the drive. I fish and hunt out of state. and never once have complained about out of state fees which are much higher than Ohio.
I don't buy$14 bait either I am a resident don't use public launches but am willing to pay a$11 fee. I agree with you everyone should pay resident or non resident it goes to benefit everyone.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mrwiggler