Long way for Walleye

Lately I have been leaving Geneva shortly after 5:00am and following the charter boats or tracking NNE until I find them out some 12-14 miles out and then it's not the greatest pick. Dipseys or TruTrip 50s produce some. Wire back 350 with Long A bombers seem to work the best but I'm not happy when it comes to totals. My biggest complaint is by the time I'm ready to raise the white flag I'm within spitting distance to our neighbor to the north and I keep forgetting to bring my passport or my French-English dictionary. My question to anyone who got this far in my thread is...Have you found any walleye in close to Geneva, say less than 10 miles and if so where? Tomorrrow I am going toward the Perry plant. In years past we used to catch a lot of walleye within 3-4 miles of shore day and night off Perry. Maybe a night troll is the way to go. I'm anxiously waiting for any news where I don't have to put 50+ miles on the boat just to catch a few walleye. I'll be on Ch.68.

Hey, we speak English up here;) EH!

I am perching tomorrow but may run long for eyes in the afternoon.

Channel 68, Big Dave

Try running east towards Ashta. Start at the 4 line & run NE

Mr. G, your info was helpful but a little short. Since I am retired and I had just topped off the Holly Lucas and had no better place to go I trailed out a charter to the pro pack on a 030 heading out of Geneva. Around the 42.10 line I found about 30 boats most of them trolling north. Since the wind was out of the north and I don't troll into the wind, I ran ahead of them to the 42.13 line, did a 180 and set up. 45 minutes of silence. Then I heard one captain tell another, "you have to troll east." That said, I started a slow left turn and got my first hit. In the next hour moving along the 42.11 line I pulled 10 fish to the boat. Two got off with only 20' to go, two were throwbacks and the other six totaled 42 lb. SS line back 333' with a black & purple Long A and yellow jacket spoon on a 50 TruTrip back 120' did it. I cannot wait for another calm day. Did I ever tell you guys how much I love boating, especially when it's 25 miles one way? Keep the info coming. It makes life easier for everyone.

25 miles out on less than a 40 ft inboard engine boat is reckless...to say the least...I speak from many years experience on the lake.

Doc W. The Right Stuff

Doc W, Most of the charter boats I see are less than 40'. I know many of the captains and I don't know any of them to be reckless. I have over 50 years of experience on Lake Erie. I started running a boat on the lake at age 9. My dad, his friends and I are personally responsible for the demise of the blue pike back in the 50's. Most of that was at night. My boat, the Holly Lucas, is a 20' ProLine with an 8 foot beam, all the electronics including GPS tracker, 2 radios, 2 batteries and a brand new 150 Evinrude E-Tec. Cell phones are useless out that far. I held a commercial pilot license with instrument rating for over 20 years and over 2000 hours logged so I know a lot about the weather and forecasts. I took the charter captains course just to be more informed. Current radar on the internet has been an additional blessing. 'Reckless' is disregarding the weather, the charts, the water and wave conditions, your own and the boats limitations, the needs and safety of your guests and of course, drinking. Enough said. I'll be out there again on Sunday...the weather and God willing.

First of all, you and your friends are not responsible for the demise of the blue pike in Lake Erie...environmental damage did that. While you are way out there in your outboard powered boat, what if you hit something and your engine is disabled...how are you going to get back? The towing services may not be available (busy towing others). Wind and wave conditions can change rapidly, the weather service warns us. Waves can really build out there because of the fetch distances involved.

DocWet

My remark about the blue pike was a joke. I fished thru the pollution years and we never throw anything except urine in the lake. From your tone, I feel you have some stories that might be chilling or is it just uncertainty or fear of the unknown. I read this once and it applies to my everyday living. "If you don't take risks, if there is no spirit of adventure in what you do, then what is the purpose of life?" If I need help, will you come? I would even if it meant towing you 25 miles to port. On a personal note, I am a doctor of veterinary medicine compliments of 8 years at The Ohio State University and you are???

I’m sure his assertion regarding the demise of the blue pike was a tongue in cheek comment. I routinely make the trip from East Harbor to the Vermillion Buoy in a Thompson fisherman 240. With good electronics, radios, and towing insurance these trips are feasible. When making a trip of this caliber, caution is a must. High pressure setting in along with a clear weather radar and good wave forecasts will lead to a safe day on the lake.

Dr. Ed,
Did Dr. Vernon Tharp teach any of your classes at OSU? He was my Great Uncle…

i thought about just not saying anything, but after giving it alot of thought i believe i will chime in. it seems acording to your statement about it being reckless to venture out on lake erie without a 40' boat with a inboard engine is reckless. if this was true 98% of the sport fisherman that fishes erie is reckless. i usely fish out of geneva marina and just about all the fishing boats i see go out there are under 30'. i personaly fish from a 21 ft cobia and have never felt i was in any danger with it. now last year while in a 28 ft sea ray we had a water spout get to close for comfort.

i feel if you watch the weather and dont go out when there is a chance of rough weather a good 18' boat is all that is really needed to be safe. there is some 18' charter boats that runs out on erie. i feel just as safe on my 21' boat as i did the 28' sea ray. and an outboard engine is just as safe as inboards. i run a 19' cherokee aluminum with an 80 hp mariner for close to 20 yrs on erie and never had the first problem. i had a 22' sea ray cabin boat that broke the fan belt and had to be towed. it had a 305 chevy engine. i had to be towed in my 21' cobia when a water line came loose and melted the exhaust bellows. then the same boat the oil line came loose on the remote oil filter and we had to have oil brought to us. that was with a brand new 5.7 vortec chevy engine. so anything can brake down. the one good thing about the 28' sea ray it has 2 engines. so if one brakes down you can limp in on one engine. but outboards are just as safe as inboards.
sherman

It appears Doc W opened a rather large can of worms with his reckless remark. Cannot wait to hear his reply to all the responses.
To BuckEye: Doctor Vernon Tharp ran the large animal clinic while I was a student at OSU. He was one of the kindest and most caring instructors I had the privilege to know. He made you feel like you were special and he had every student's respect from day one. He was more than a teacher to me. He was my friend and I miss him. O----H

One of these days, you long rangers are going to get out there and will have a very difficult time getting back when the weather turns...and then you will be in some deep blue! It doesn't have to be a storm, just a fresh breeze will cause you a very rough ride...hopefully something doesn't break...and it is very easy to hit something unseen. I've even seen boat dock sections sloshing back and forth between the US and Canada...so watchout!

Cheers, Docwet

ps: there's a 42' Yerllowfin with 3x 300 hp outboards on U-tube running 105 miles in 140 minutes...thats more like it!

DocWet,
Don't change the subject. We are talking walleye and walleye boats. A 42' Yellowfin grossly over powered blasting its way across Lake Erie is not only reckless but irresponsible. And by the way, how slow will that boat troll. It may not even have a fishfinder on board. I do know that what that boat burns in one day will feed my boat until I'm forced off the lake by ice.

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Originally Posted by docwet

One of these days, you long rangers are going to get out there and will have a very difficult time getting back when the weather turns...and then you will be in some deep blue! It doesn't have to be a storm, just a fresh breeze will cause you a very rough ride...hopefully something doesn't break...and it is very easy to hit something unseen. I've even seen boat dock sections sloshing back and forth between the US and Canada...so watchout!

Cheers, Docwet

ps: there's a 42' Yerllowfin with 3x 300 hp outboards on U-tube running 105 miles in 140 minutes...thats more like it!

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Yea,All of us here have 200 grand to dump on a fishing boat..........:rolleyes:

My buddy went out with some charter, I think the sign in the picture said Bandit Charters, this past Wednesday the 15th, and they caught 35 wallys, a perch, & a steelhead in 65 fow out of Geneva but were close to Geneva on the Lake.
The fishing here in Erie has died off and very tough now to get on the eyes. Most guys going after perch now.

To DocWet and anyone else who cares:
I was out between the 42.o9 and 42.11 line NNE of Geneva yesterday and guess who showed up for the walleye party? I counted over 100 boats and not one of them was over 35' so I am not the only reckless one roaming the deeper waters of Lake Erie and fron what I observed, most of them were running their boats in a responsible manner. My biggest thrill and challenge yesterday was boating a 25" steely on a purple and black Long A Bomber back 345' on 12 lb SS line. The biggest walleye was 27 1/2 in off the same lure and distance but there was no comparison. With the blessings of God and my wife I will see you crazies out there tomorow. (Be safe)

been catching them the last 2 weeks here in 45-55 fow. Haven't been out beyond that since the lake flipped several weeks ago.
Buddy went out of Genva last Wednesday and caught 35 eyes, a perch, and a steelie in 65fow off Geneva on the Lake.

I run a 12ft sportspal canoe 2.5 monkey wards 2 stroke with extra plugs

7 miles straight out of walnut for perch. 2 hole cement block for an anchor and paddles for back-up...

Hehehehe

Interesting reading LMAO....!

http://www.thehulltruth.com/boating-...less-boat.html

Best to all

Ed

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To DocWet and anyone else who cares:
I was out between the 42.o9 and 42.11 line NNE of Geneva yesterday and guess who showed up for the walleye party? I counted over 100 boats and not one of them was over 35' so I am not the only reckless one roaming the deeper waters of Lake Erie and fron what I observed, most of them were running their boats in a responsible manner. My biggest thrill and challenge yesterday was boating a 25" steely on a purple and black Long A Bomber back 345' on 12 lb SS line. The biggest walleye was 27 1/2 in off the same lure and distance but there was no comparison. With the blessings of God and my wife I will see you crazies out there tomorow. (Be safe)

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The only reason all those charters are out there is that they are all getting a $600 payday...if the fish were in 30 ft of water, they would all be there in 30 ft., believe me! Its just no fun being broke down many miles from shore, waiting for a tow, night falling and the weather deteriorating...no fun at all.

Cheers, Docwet

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The only reason all those charters are out there is that they are all getting a $600 payday...if the fish were in 30 ft of water, they would all be there in 30 ft., believe me! Its just no fun being broke down many miles from shore, waiting for a tow, night falling and the weather deteriorating...no fun at all.

Cheers, Docwet

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I can attest to that, luckily I had a buddy out trolling in the near area of me when my boat broke down and I lost all power. Luckily he was in the area to tow but we both barely had cell service out there.

Alot of the time when places get all crowded is someone posts something and many read and pass the info along, whether its good info or bad info, can cause combat driving when there are a ton of boats and guys have boards out & some not paying attention to where they're driving cause of a fish or a tangle or anything.
With the temps going back in the 80's soon, hoping it will trigger some better size eyes. Ones we been catching have been in that 18-20 inch range with a mix of a 5-6 pounder here and there.

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Originally Posted by Bowhuntnsteve

I can attest to that, luckily I had a buddy out trolling in the near area of me when my boat broke down and I lost all power. Luckily he was in the area to tow but we both barely had cell service out there.

Alot of the time when places get all crowded is someone posts something and many read and pass the info along, whether its good info or bad info, can cause combat driving when there are a ton of boats and guys have boards out & some not paying attention to where they're driving cause of a fish or a tangle or anything.
With the temps going back in the 80's soon, hoping it will trigger some better size eyes. Ones we been catching have been in that 18-20 inch range with a mix of a 5-6 pounder here and there.

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Hello,

I fell if you watch the weather and ont go out when there is a chance of rough weather a good.me and my friend so miss him

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