Anyone run 2 - 3 dipsys off the same side of the boat, if so whats the secret to stopping the tangles of the lines ?? thanks for any help.
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Anyone run 2 - 3 dipsys off the same side of the boat, if so whats the secret to stopping the tangles of the lines ?? thanks for any help.
Yes, its been done. Adjust the counter weight settings. Say your closest to port side would be a 0 setting, next rod can be a 1.5 setting, then your outside will run at the 3 setting. Port is Left on dipsey, then Right is Starboard side. In past I also used a shorter rod for the 0 or 1 setting, then a longer rod for the outside. And your leads will all be different at 0-1-2-3 settings. There is a chart on back of most new dipsey packages- fish on hope this helps- ron
i,ll give you an idea. but i use lite bite slide divers so the no# are alittle different but the basics are the same. here is how i fished my divers on erie last week. the fish were down 50 ft and i wanted to fish above them.
my front outside rod is a 9' rod the diver set on 4.5 out 150 ft my middle rod an 8' rod diver set on 3 out 120 ft my inside back rod 7' set on 1.5 out 90 ft this keeps the lures close to the same depth but keeps your lines apart.
then if you need to let your outside rod out you go to the other side of the back of the boat and start letting it out. you use the reel clicker to slow it down so it dont tangle. when you get out 15 ft past your middle rod you take your rod up and over the other 2. and put it in the rod holder. it should be about out where you want it. then just kick the reel in gear and check to make sure its where you want it. like say my middle reel was out 120 so when i got to 135 with my outside rod i would take it up and over and put it in the holder. at that point it would be real close to 150.
same thing on the middle rod. my back rod was out 90 so when i got to 105 i would take it up and over the back rod and put it in the holder. it would be close to 120.
i hope i have helped you and didnt just confuse you. the very best way to learn this is go out with someone elce or take a charter out one time. its really worth the money.
sherman
Thanks for the info. ,suonds good !
I always run 2 dipsey on each side. If you are running jet divers with short leads you need to think about the high possibility of the jets running into the dipseys. In that case you should set them at 0 and 1.5. Mine are normally at 1 and 3 and never tangle. Never let them out fast and use the clicker. Some guys run the #1 at the rear of the boat and the #3 just forward of that in the rod holders. I can run my #1 towards the front and #3 at the rear but the rod holders are 8 ft apart. Take some more time on how you set the rods. A good lesson on my boat would probably be worth the time. When I run my #1 dipsey way forward, when a fish hits it, the guys reels it up right along side the boat. The # 3 rod at the rear corner , fish on , then would come right up the rear of the boat. When using very long lines on dipsy, like 100-180ft, is somewhat different way so that the diver has time to go over the over line.
Salmon fishing, some guys run 3 or 4 on each side. They go out to where you tell them and dont vere far from that. Its hard to tangle these if you get a pattern.
lineman i was out last week what a nightmare i run my d.r. on the port side at the rear and i run a dispy on the starboard near the rear and once off the bow - i spent most of my time tangled i can,t seem to keep the boat straight w/o my line crossing i troll at 1.5 using my big motor 115 w/a drift sox - it was the worst day ever trolling for hours only to realize that you were tangled the whole time - i can't seem to stay stright!!
is it easier to run everything from the same side?
Speed up the boat. 2.0-2.6 or faster. Walleye hit on a reaction to the lure.
Reaction Bite. Put settings on #1 and #3. Run the #3 about 10-15 ft longer than #1 and will be at similar depth. At 70 on a #3 and 55-60 on #1 they should be 20 feet apart or so. The lengthy method below will work. All dipseys should be same Diameter and line should be same also. You can run 4 dipseys on basically any boat and should not tangle. They go to the same place everytime you set them out. Put a leash on each rod so that they dont end up in another rod holder and get mixed up with another. Let them out fairly slow, one at a time. A days lesson is worth more than what is written here.
Here is a picture of hogs from Ashtabula , trolling. crankbaits 350 back off the planer bd, and 115 and 180 on the dipsey setting on 1 and 3, no tangle just fish.
i dont know what you was doing wrong for sure. i run 2 riggers 1 off each corner then run 3 divers off each side. you may have had the divers set to run on the wrong side of the boat. make sure when you drop your diver in the water its pulling to the side of the boat your going to run it on. i have 3 rod holders in the back on the gunnels. i point them out at a 90 degree angle to the boat. then i run short leads off my riggers. i run my holders about 10 to 12 in apart. i have never tried running one off the front of the boat. theres just no need to do that. if you have your diver set on a 3 setting to the right you drop it in the water on the left side in the back and make sure you clear your rigger. the diver should pull hard to the right side of the boat. if it pulls to the left side you have it set wrong. switch the setting on the diver. when you get it going the right direction flip it out of gear with the clicker on to slow it down so it dont tangle as you let it out. depending on how far out you plan to run it, about 15 ft before its all the way out you take it and put it in the front rod holder. then if your running 2 divers on that side set it on a 2 setting let it out 30 ft less than your front diver. about 15 ft before you get all the way out put it in the next back holder. then if your running 3 divers set it on a 1 setting let it out untill your 15 ft from being out now put it in the back rod holder. after you put them in the holder flip them back in gear and check your counter. and put it out to the amount you want.Quote:
Originally Posted by wishin fishin
you should never get your divers in your riggers. you just have to be doing something wrong. because if you have your divers set to go out beside the boat the only way you could get them tangled is if your getting into them when your letting them out. or your putting your divers on the wrong side of the boat. if you have the diver pulling to the right and you put it on the left side of the boat its going to run back towards the boat.
always check your counters when you start letting them out, to make sure they are set and they are working.
the best thing i can advise you to do is fill a couple of empty seats with guys using divers. or go out on a charter with someone running divers. but maby something i have said will help you.
sherman
one other thing, you said you was using a drift sock. you might be better to use 2 drift socks. one on each side. and maby even try speeding up just alittle about 1.8 to 2.0, all these things should help. if you put your front outside diver out first you can just let it out on the side your going to fish it on. and make sure its pulling away from the boat. you should have to be turning pretty bad to tangle a dipsy on one side with a rigger on the other side. and keep the clicker on when letting out your diver. please let me know if anything i,ve said has helped you. and i will try to answer any questions. just pm me.
i run 3 divers and 1 rigger and 1 outrigger on each side. the main thing is on the divers is to run a higher setting in the front outside. like if i was using dipsy,s i would run it on a 3 setting then my middle rod i would do a 2 setting 30 ft shorter than the front diver then i would do a 1 setting 30 ft less than my middle rod. i do run short leads on my riggers so they dont tangle as im letting them out with the riggers down. you can mix up your lures. i mix spoons and harnesses. then on the outrigger you have to run something that dont get as deep as your divers or something that has to go out alot farther to get down. does anything i,ve posted help you??Quote:
Originally Posted by wishin fishin
sherman
How do the Dipsy's work for you in the deeper water? I fish mostly out of Walnut and most of my fish come from downriggers. I need to find productive ways to put more lines in the water. I fish riggers mounted at the back streight out the back (2 rods). And Dipsy's out both sides for a total of 4 rods.
from what i understand alot of people use wire line on ther dipsy,s to get them down deeper. i never fish lake erie deeper than 60 ft so i just use braid.Quote:
Originally Posted by skinny5382
another way to get deeper is switch to the lite bite slide divers, which is what i use. you can get bigger rings that help some. but you can also get weight kits which contains a 2 oz weight and a 4 oz weight. just use the big ring and the 4 oz weight. that will help get you alot deeper.
i dont use the slide part of the diver, i just tie to the trip arm then tie about a 6 to 8 ft leader to a split ring and lace it through the back of the diver. you dont even have to use the lite bite arm unless you just want to. but i like using it. then you can set the front trip arm alittle tight so you dont get alot of false releases. then set the lite bite arm as light as you want it. when im fishing erie we get alot of white perch. if you set the lite bite arm as loose as it will go and still hold the arm even the white perch will trigger the diver.
sherman
What is the best / most common size of dipseys for western basin walleye trolling? I have "0" but heard #1's were the best. What about the snubbers, line type, and dipsey color? I'm gearing up this winter for next summer and wondered what you guys may think. Thanks!!
I use size #1 dipseys. 8" snubbers with 20 pound mono leader about 5-6 ft long. I run the dipseys usually without the plastic ring. Colors dont make much difference to me. Dont think the fish care much but I dont use loud colors. I use 4 jet divers on each side also on the boards. Blue on one side and red on the other. Maybe try 2 diff colors of dipsey. One color on port and another color on starbd. I do this to help customers from getting mixed up. I also put blue tape around the rod handle to match the jet diver. If I run crankbaits on one side and jets on the other, I just remember which color is jets. Try to make the setup as easy as possible for customers to use. Check the diver chart for dipseys with or without ring and the line size on the reel. I use Power Pro 30 on all trolling gear.
Thanks Greg! Perfect answers to my questions!!
mag dipsys on a wire rod for deep action is a blast. i run 1 rigger 1 wire rod and 1 #1 dipsy on braid off each side of boat. the presentation should look like a V from the back of the boat. the deepest rod being closest to the stern and shallowest being closest to bow. tight lines
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