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Having a few extra spoons in favorite colors I was thinking of changing a few to a single hook or to the new-ish type "worm burners". I trolled a couple of the Gale Force setups but found them not any better than the spoons or harnesses, I have changed a few to the single siwash hooks for this year. I know from here there are those that do stick to spoons or harnesses but I am just looking for something that may change my luck just a little.;)
Gene
If you try the do it yourself spoon harness thing, be sure that you check that the spoon actually wobbles and flutters once the short harness and worm have been added. Some spoons become totally useless once the harness and worm are added, it kills the action, they just follow along with the back side of the spoon in the up position and drag along behind the jet like a surf board. The best spoons that I have found are the Wolverine Jr. Streaks for the do it yourself conversion to a spoon harness, even some of them act like a surf board after the conversion.
Wakina, thanks for the heads up on the spoons. Just at a glance the Mi. Stingers
and Gale Force spoons seem very similar, maybe I'll just let it ride and do 1 or 2and just use the Gale Force and Domkas. What is your take on the single hook as opposed to the trebles?
Gene
I have always used what came with the spoons which is almost always trebles, I have friends that have changed to the single hooks and about half of them liked them and stayed with them and the other half changed back to trebles, so I really think it is what the person likes and not the hooks themselves. People are always looking for something to blame or something to use as an excuse why a fish comes unbuttoned (me included) and this is probably the reason people change hooks.
Thanks again, what has me looking at the change was the loss at the boat prior to the netting. The nephews are the worst as to letting the line slack prior to it and its usually gone, but there have been wiser adults on board that do the same thing. I'll be sure not to change to many and I'll watch to determine if the change is worth the trouble.
Thanks again,
Gene
It seems that was a common occurance last year, people who used harnesses also were complaining they were losing fish at the boat, some switched to single hooks on there harnesses and that corrected the problem but they then complained about fewer hookups vs pullbacks after changing to the one hook harnesses. So I think there is another under laying problem! I was losing way to many blades on my harnesses last year, the eyes were striking the blade and hanging on and at the boat open their mouth and the fish was gone and the blade would go flying as it was pulled out of the quick change clevis. I switch to the metal clevis and have not lost another blade that way since, but still lose fish right at the boat or just behind it, probably for the same reason.Quote:
Originally Posted by BtweenShots
Though I haven't had good enough success with the spoon harnesses to run many. I did switch all of mine to beaded chain to help with the flipping action of the spoons.
http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g2...t/100_1505.jpg
Nickname for those is "Wormburner" I saw them a few years ago.
Not sure who sold them commercially. I saw something form the upper midwest just like this, same concept.
Doesnt thundermist make a spoon like this? Havent used one, was wondering if anyone has used a thundermist spoon? would hate to spend the money to find out they dont run true, dont want to fight the lure all day long.Also ,this trolling thing is new to me, starting to outfit the boat/tackle.Can anyone give advice to brand, sizes, and colors of spoons. Would like to start buying a few. Thanks Mike
Here is the link where there are a few still available! I quit running spoon harnesses as they catch fish at about the same rate as a regular harness on good days, and found them to be just something else to store and take up space without any improvement on catch rate except on rare occasions.
http://www.coldwatertackle.com/dream...r-walleye-rigs
Wow !! Nice responses on the "wormburners" and had to reply:
Ebi : Nice looking spoons but looks to be abit time consuming to make for one to make for 2 boats without a knowing if they make a difference as an option.
Mike : Thundermist along with Domka Outdoors and Gale Force sell them. To me there is little differences in the spoons they all use which look like Mi. Stingers which are my primary spoons and homemade harnesses but I have a few of the "wormburners" from each of the above mfg. to try this year.
Greg : Nice to here from ya, what is your opinion as to the Thundermists did they produce a better bite at a time when things sloooowed down our are they just another something to try?
Wakina : I now have a batch of "wormburners" that are close to resembling a few of my favorite spoons and have worm harnesses I prepared to resemble each I'll be busy trying remember what it catching and what is not and really it's
just a game of chance .
CHANCE...... A little woman walking through a Indian Reservation noticed that when a woman went up to a Chief and raised her hand and said HOW his response was to raise his hand in return and say CHANCE.... The little womans curiosity overtook her and confronted him as to why his reply was only CHANCE instead or HOW. His response was KNOW HOW,,,,JUST WANT CHANCE....:eek:
Gene
I dont use the wormburners, (yet). A neighboring captain and friend use them during the summer and have good success. Not sure of the brand though. I mainly pull cranks and spoons during the summer when I do troll. I mainly drift but now and then I troll on flat days.
Thanks Btweenshots, they are easy to make. I have caught a few fish on them, but like mentioned, I catch more fish on reg. spoons or harnesses to mess with those much. I haven't seen enough of an advantage. I've made them with and without beads etc. And taken a fish here and there. More guys on Saginawbay run them with better results.
Last year it seems that any spoon in the Michigan Stinger Scorpion and Wolverine Tackle Junior Streak sized spoons in Purple with a copper backs caught alot of fish, then there is that magical Jager Bomb color that caught alot of fish, and it was mentioned frequently by Skipper9 in his fishing reports, it is available by name in both Michigan Stinger Scorpion and Wolverine Tackle Junior Streak. Beyond that I can't give you any more colors but the copper backed spoons seemed to be the better producers at least in our marina in 2011. I have provided a link to the Stinger color version of Jager Bomb and both the Stingers and Jr. Streaks were available in Jager Bomb at Fishermans Wharf in Port Clinton last summer.Quote:
Originally Posted by twopugsforme
http://www.auroralitestackle.com/ima...oons-page4.htm