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so i fished Friday and Saturday ended up with 7 fish for 2 days running bandits do we have a depth chart for these i was assuming 100 ft back = 27 ft so say 50 ft back at 13 ft am i correct with the line out to lure depth we use big boards whats a good depth most of the fish were caught on the khaki and blue chrome. but im a old time weight forward spinner guy and i made me some erie deries going to try for a few hours next time. does the bandit bite slow as season goes on
According to the precision trolling app this is the Bandit Deep Walleye dive chart:
32ft line is 10 ft down
50ft line is 13ft down
60ft line is 15ft down
70ft line is 16ft down
80ft line is 17ft down
90ft line is 18ft down
100ft line is 19ft down
117ft line is 20ft down
145ft line is 21ft down
195ft line is 22ft down
That's where the chart stops. I know the lure says 27ft but this is for the width of 10lb mono so basically 30ish braid. You can obviously assist this with in line weights but to go deeper I'd just switch to jet divers with stinger spoons or something personally.
Btw, the precision trolling app is free itself and each lure you buy is $1.99. I bought Deep Walleye Bandits and Luhr Jenson Jet 40's as that's what I use the most.
Also, as opposed to a line counter reel I bought Berkley Tracer braided line. It goes from light green to dark green every 2.5ft so every time you see light green end you count 5ft. I also put a special mark on the light green every 25ft. You can take a permanent marker and mark any light color braided line. I fish a lot of different water and don't have the money for line counter reels that I'd only use on Erie.
i'm assuming you have to add a 5 or 6 foot leader of mono off the jet to put your crankbait on? if you do not go this option you run out 200 ft of line then put your board on?
Yes I put a flouro lead from the braid. I'd actually never put out 200ft line on a Bandit. To get deeper I'd put a Jet 40 on and pull a stinger spoon or harness. Furthest I've run Bandits back is 115ft to hit around 20ft down. So, I if I'm fishing 30fow I might use some Bandits to cover the column and set a Jet 40 back 115ft to get it down to 28ft (also according to the precision trolling app info). The app is amazing and I'd recommend picking it up for anyone with a smart phone. Free app and $1.99 per each lures info. As I said I only bought Deep Walleye Bandits and Jet 40's as that's what I use. Last edit I promise :) Others have mentioned the precision trolling info being off. In my experience it may be a little off and you're probably running a little deeper than it says you are. Just the other day I was fishing 22-26fow and my Bandit out 115 didn't ever hit the bottom to my knowledge. Speed and line width are factors obviously too. Basically, spend enough time out there with different leads of line out and you'll figure out how much line you need to get down where you want. For instance, I saw a thread on here last year that a guy said his jet 40's ran 33ft down with 100ft line out. Precision trolling has a Jet 40 at 25ft down with 100ft line out. I think the answer for me is somewhere in between. Maybe some others can chime in with their knowledge?
we have line counters jet 40s jet 30s last year we used harnesses mich stingers homemade worm burners which work very well but now was using bandits also we run heavy bottom bouncers straight out back days we limit days we dont and we use mono leaders.5-6 ft all different kinds of lures had good luck with j sevens and fives. so you run the bandits straight off the board 50-60 back without a jet we have not used a jet with bandits and average 50 back now 10 fish 3 trips but short 3-4 hours experimenting maybe Tuesday an all day trip
Sometimes people confuse jet40's with TruTrip 40's. Big difference in dive curve.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pauken23
we have jet 40s
do you use them with bandits we use them with our spoons and other harnesses thanks for all the info i will download the app but left my phone in daughters car ill get it back later shes coming over for mothersday thanks again i love this site so helpful
I have never heard of anyone using jets or trutrips with Bandits. I have added inline weight ahead of bandits with success when I was experimenting one day.
Agreed, I only pull Stinger Spoons and Harnesses with Jets. Bandits I run as is without weights. If I ever were to run a crank behind a Jet (never have) I would use a shallow diving crank.
Saw this discussion on OGF and the conclusion of topic is you do not want to be running a crankbaits of another diving device, such as a Jet,Tru trip or dipsy.If want to get deeper with a crankbait, want to use a sinker.The exception is a shallow,small bill crackbait.Think reason for this is don't know where at in depth charts and a crank can trip a Tru trip or dipsy unless tighten to point it may not release when hit by fish.
In reference to the dive chart, what speed is that at?I'm assuming there will be a different depth say at 1.5 and 2.0mph.
Bandits don't have a speed adjuster in the Precision Trolling app which according to them means the speed doesn't have too much of an impact. Obviously extreme differences would.
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This is the one that I use. PM me your number and I can text it to anyone who wants it on their phone. I actually have it set as my wall paper on my phone so it is always available. It has worked wonderfully for me..
http://www.grimsbytackle.com/images/jet_diver_40.jpeg
Yup that Bandit chart is basically the same as Precision Trolling. A google search for "Bandit Deep Walleye dive chart" can find that pic and then you can can save it. Hopefully this Jet 40 pic comes through I'm trying to post.
I tried using bandits and jets once it does not work! lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Eyezcrazy
got it thanks
The deep diving billed baits won't work behind jets, the cranks pull down on the back of the jet, witch doesn't allow the jet to dive to its intended depth,changes the dive curve of the jet making it plane at more level angle. I have used bombers, little rippers, storm, in the shallow diving bills with success.I second black pearls thoughts!