Fishing with a Massive Hangover

Fished this past Saturday with my buddy Tom who has a place on Johnson Island.Was supposed to leave dock at 7am with his 2 sons.I arrived around 630 to assemble the rods and Tom told me one son wasn't coming because he wanted to sleep in.His other son,Andrew was going to be late.So Andrew shows up eventually and leave the dock at 830.We headed ENE,into the residual NE rollers from the night before and was bumpier than expected.Got to where we wanted to fish and started setting bags and rods.Andrew had been laying down on ride out,but he got up and threw up into the garbage can,then laid back down and slept again.
Set out 4 dipseys,all with double willow worm harnesses
@ 50 and 65 on 1 setting and 70 and 85 on 3 setting.All four rods were catching fish initially and had difficult time keeping them in the water with no help.I eventually was able to get out a bandit on a board,but soon that board got burried and took us a while to bring in a huge sheephead.I then retired the boards and just worked the dipseys.We ended up with 17/35lbs in around 5hrs.Caught alot of white bass/perch and shorts too.
Andrew did not reel in or net a single fish.Help drive boat for a couple minutes on 2 fish.He threw up several times and slept the rest of the time.He hardley even talked to us.I have had my share of hangovers while fishing,but i always found a way to fish through it.Guess these millenials are not tough enough anymore.

Well at least he could have had the decency to chum overboard instead of in the garbage can. I bet them rollers really gave him a good work over.. :) Poor little fella.

So he didnt reel in any fish? And you kept 17 walleyes hum only supposed to keep 6 a piece!Every one is only allowed 6 to reel in just because you have 3 people dont mean you can keep more.If hes not fishing.

QUCH......That really wasn't called for!!!!

really that's what you got out of this report.i see these charter boats posting pic of limits from their customers and their limit every day.you think the captain reels in their own fish.unreal

Back in the day when all the charters were casting the Captain & First Mate usually caught half or better everything taken for the day.

They just don’t make em like they used to Bob. Thanks for the report.

I'm sure Tinman knows how people troll and keep a boat limit.Think he may not have liked my millenial dig.It probably have happened to alot of us,when people show up late to fish and are not much help on the boat.

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Originally Posted by The Tinman

So he didnt reel in any fish? And you kept 17 walleyes hum only supposed to keep 6 a piece!Every one is only allowed 6 to reel in just because you have 3 people dont mean you can keep more.If hes not fishing.

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You really think everyone on the boat has to reel in their 6 fish, and their 6 fish only? There are PLENTY who take along a wife/gf/friend to get an extra 6 fish... And the wife/gf/friend never touches any tackle. As long as they're on the boat, they count as another limit

There was quite a discussion on "boat limits" on the thread started by jjan 1976 walleye report 7-13 7-14 in 2013. The gist was "boat limit" does not exist as far as DOW is concerned. Only 6 per person actually fishing can be kept. I know some fisherpeople do that to get limits for everybody but it is not legal. Check the thread. Putting a statement in hard copy like itsbob did is an open invitation to game wardens. Not arguing, just providing info.

Call Reid Van Cleve at 419-429-8389 O.D.N.R. for Ottawa county.And ask him how it works.I sure know.And yourreally teaching the millenials not the facts or regulations. Theres lots of people who read this forum which is great 99 percent of time.But theres always the 1 percent who either dont know or care about laws.

Sorry Buckeyezip and everyone who believes his theory- Cooley Farms is correct. The DOW does not recognize boat limits as the legal method of counting daily bag limits. In fact, I know of a fisherman who was ticketed during the spring jig bite a few years ago for overbagging when he had the hot hand and caught the majority of the walleyes on the boat one morning.

Even though the total boat count only had the legal number of walleyes on board, the game wardens had been watching them fish long enough to see who caught and kept how many fish, then followed them into the marina and wrote the guilty party up. It doesn't happen often, because watching a group to tally individual catches is not an efficient use of their time, but sometimes they get intel by splitting up the group and asking them individually who caught how many to see if someone spills the beans.

I know the ODNR still considers legally ,that each person on a boat is only allowed to reel in their 6 walleye or their 30 perch.I have heard,rarely,that they have even gave a citation for someone catching more than their 6 fish and giving the extra to somebody else.Have read lengthy discussions on this subject on OGF about the practicality of the ODNR enforcing that law.The discussion ultimately results in the consensus,that the ODNR should change the law and recognize a boat limit instead of an individual limit.How often does a charter or private boat keep track of how many fish each person reeled in and have people stop fishing while the rest of the boat continues to fish.That answer is practically nobody.

I agree with your observations and have written articles supporting "boat limits" but I was just pointing out that the law doesn't presently allow it. However, having a wife on board reading or tanning just to allow those who are fishing to be able to keep an additional limit of fish not only breaks the letter of the law, but also the intent of daily bag limits (and ethical sportsmanship), namely fair distribution among the "fishing participants."

It is impractical, if not nearly impossible to keep track of who kept how many perch when a single cooler is often the norm on most boats. Even an accurate walleye count is tough to assign to specific anglers when undersize fish and non-target species are being thrown back, hence my support of boat limits to keep anglers from being cited like a common poacher when they are attempting to behave by observing a boat limit.

three on the boat if everyone has a license 18 fish.

I have a nephew who likes to walleye fish. He’s under 30 so I think he’s a millennial. I invited him to fish in June. He made the drive down from Detroit to meet us at 8am on a Saturday morning at Catawba. He was extremely hung over and puked overboard several times and one time on the deck. I demonstrated the wash down system and he was impressed. He reeled in fish all day and never asked to go in. I think it depends on how much you’re into the fishing. I sent him home with the 6 largest fish and received a text back later that evening with a picture of the fish on his dining room table. He never had much given to him as a child and had to make his own way. I think that also makes a difference.

2 hours late, next time leave him at dock.