Fishing with Lisa and Tanya...4/9/2024

After too many days off, I was back to work this morning. WoooHoooo!

I have family in town, and staying at my house for the week, so my morning routine is a little off, and I was trying to be quiet, so I wouldn't wake my sister and brother-in-law, and got a little impatient, and left the house early.

I wasn't meeting my crew until 6:30 at the Portage River launch, but I left the house at 5AM anyway. I figured I would take the long way through town, while it was dark and quiet, to waste some time, before meeting my crew at 6:30.


I only needed ice this morning, since I had gassed the boat and truck up the other day, when I brought the Vexus out of storage, and put it back under the carport, here at the house.
I drove to the Speedway across town, picked up some ice, and headed back across town again, to the launch.



It was still dark at 5:45, so I turned on the boat's interior lights, and used the spotlight on my iPhone to rig some rods. Since I was going to be passing under a bridge, before I got to the mouth of the river, I didn't put the rods in the rod holders, or put the antenna up yet. I didn't want anything getting broken. Been there, done that before....oops!


Anyway, the boat was ready to go, it was getting a little lighter out, and they weren't there yet, so I launched the boat, thinking that because they were both women, (one likes to fish and the other had never been on a boat, or caught a fish before), that they wouldn't be comfortable backing up a trailer. I couldn't have been more wrong...and, could have saved myself the trouble of launching alone. (Not my favorite thing to do).


Lisa, Tanya, and Kim rented a house in town for the Solar Eclipse, and booked a trip with me, for the day after. Lisa loves to fish, and had a bucket list of fish she wanted to catch....a walleye was one of them. Initially, Tanya was just along for the experience, but would come to know the joys of catching her own walleye, too.
And, Kim gets sick just looking at waves, so she opted out of the trip, and stayed on shore.


Both of them own horses, and have pulled horse trailers for a long time. If you can handle a horse trailer, with a live animal in it, you can easily back up a boat. I should have waited for them, because launching solo still makes me a little nervous. For some reason, I always think the boat is going to float away on me, even though I have ropes securely in place. lol It's a mind game with myself, I guess.


When I was parking the trailer, a car drove into the lot, and no one else was there at that time, so I knew it had to be my crew. They arrived, excited to go, so we hopped in the boat, and headed down the river.


Once we passed the bridge, I had Lisa take the wheel. "Just keep the boat in the center of the channel, while I get the rods out", I said to Lisa. She took control and I pulled the rods out of the locker. They were all set up with Bandits, in varying colors....Carrot Top (stock), Taco Salad (stock color), Potato Bread (custom), Fruit Dots (black headed wonder bread/stock), Barbie (custom), and RC Crush (custom).


Heading out of the river, I asked, "Is everyone ready to go?" They both replied, "Yes!", so the 400 purred and got the boat up on plane, and off we went, to the west. We set up near Camp Perry in 15' of water. The Terrova and baby Merc quietly pushed us in a northeasterly direction, at 1.6-1.7 mph on the FishHawk...SOG was similar in that area.

Water temp on the surface was 46 degrees and 45 at 15 feet down.


I started out with only 3 Off Shore boards per side, and set the Bandits on the port side at 25, 35, and 40 back, with the shortest lead on the outside. My boards are set to trip from the front arm now, which allows a shorter lead to work on an outside board, easier than on one that doesn't release.


The starboard side ran at 35, 45, and 55 back. Nothing for the first 1/2 hour, so we made a 5 mile move east, and set up over 27 feet of water, adding another board, per side, with leads running at 60 on the outside boards, 53 on number three, 43 on number two, and 41 on number one, (inside board), on both sides.


White bodied baits were used to start, and would catch most of our limit, but near the end, Lisa chose one of my favorite colors (Carrot Top), and it would get hit in minutes of being out, and let out again. It hit three fish pretty fast. I laughed and said, "I had that one in the beginning, but took it off...my bad!" I think I will have a few of those out again tomorrow. :)


Lisa was so excited to have caught her very first walleye, and could mark it off her bucket list, now. She said, "I don't even care if we catch another one, because I caught my walleye, and can scratch it off the list". I said, smiling, "You're my favorite kind of customer, but I think we can catch a few more this morning".


It was a beautiful day, and not as windy as was predicted in the forecast, so I was grateful, and pleasantly surprised. We all commented how nice it was today, and how everyone had needed a nice day like this one, to recharge the batteries.
We timed it right, because when we had our limit, and time was up, we headed in...the wind was picking up as we arrived back at the river, and whitecaps were forming, even close to shore. (It was an offshore wind today).


Lisa and Tanya both said that they had a great time. And, now Lisa is coming back in October to try some perch fishing with me, and that makes me happy!


Tomorrow, I have my long time customers, (who are more like family to me than just customers). Steve and Jeremy Chapman. Steve was my very first customer, 13 years ago, and Jeremy started coming with him 12 years ago, so I'm looking forward to tomorrow too.


The weather looks like it's going to be really nice again, so hopefully the fish are in a good mood, and will be biting.


We are doing a little later start....at 8am, since they are driving up from the Columbus area in the morning.


Stay tuned....


Capt Juls

So, so, so glad to read a report from you, Juls! I live vicariously thru your detailed and colorful storytelling when I’m away from the lake. You always make it exciting! Congrats on the good start to the year.

Hey Juls, nice to see your season is off to a good start. Can I ask why you changed your boards to release on the front.

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Originally Posted by Goosechaser

Hey Juls, nice to see your season is off to a good start. Can I ask why you changed your boards to release on the front.

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I had tried it, while fun fishing with a friend, a couple of falls ago, just to test it out, but the line I was previously using (Sunline Supernatural 20#), broke while trying to release the front clip. I didn't use that technique with customers last year, because...well, I didn't want to have to chase boards down, and I wasn't confident with it.

Then, after going fishing with Sam and another Captain, earlier this season, I was talking to Sam about what line he was using on his board rods, and he told me the Big Game 20# test. So, I changed out my line, and tried it again....I didn't have any issues.

I tried it with customers, and it works so much better than leaving the board attached to the line, since when it breaks away from the front release, and it flips around to come in by the back release, it centers up behind the boat, so you can get it in easier, with less tangles. It also allows the board to go under the water without any resistance.

My long time customers have really liked the change, and so do I. Sometimes, I'm slow to learn, but I do learn. :)

Now that is some specific news I can use. Thanks, Goosechaser, for the question. Thanks Capt Juls for the answer.

Thanks Juls again for all the information that you give us. So if I were to switch from 10 lb. to 20 lb line how does that affect the dive curve when looking at the precision trolling app.?

Negligible in my opinion...I don't bother changing anything. I just make sure my reels are calibrated, so all my reels are the same, or very close to the same.

Thank you for the explanation. Very informative like always.

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Originally Posted by Capt Juls

I had tried it, while fun fishing with a friend, a couple of falls ago, just to test it out, but the line I was previously using (Sunline Supernatural 20#), broke while trying to release the front clip. I didn't use that technique with customers last year, because...well, I didn't want to have to chase boards down, and I wasn't confident with it.

Then, after going fishing with Sam and another Captain, earlier this season, I was talking to Sam about what line he was using on his board rods, and he told me the Big Game 20# test. So, I changed out my line, and tried it again....I didn't have any issues.

I tried it with customers, and it works so much better than leaving the board attached to the line, since when it breaks away from the front release, and it flips around to come in by the back release, it centers up behind the boat, so you can get it in easier, with less tangles. It also allows the board to go under the water without any resistance.

My long time customers have really liked the change, and so do I. Sometimes, I'm slow to learn, but I do learn. :)

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I have been doing that for years and it works great. I use the black medium tension clips on the front of my boards and put the line about halfway in. Never had one break off and I use 15# test big game green. The key (IMO) is to grab the rod, hold the spool and give it a quick "buggy whip" as soon as you grab the rod. It should pop right out and then wait a few seconds for it to drop back before you start reeling.

My regular fishing partner loves the Sam's pro releases, and they work great as well. I will say, do not use the cheap red ones, as those suck, big time! The black plastic is hard and slippery on those and they are hard to keep the line wrapped. If you use the real black ones, you will be fine. Just takes a minute to get the tension right and then you are good.

One more tip, I switched all my rear releases to the Bluewater tackle releases and they are great. They are similar to the red Off-shore clips, but they have an aluminum pin in the middle that won't wear out and it is easier to remove when you have a fish.

I bought the black ones, Sam's, but I also got some of the cheaper red ones (Before I read this lol) They might work for me since I only go out three or four times a year. Time will tell.

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Originally Posted by slimshady

I have been doing that for years and it works great. I use the black medium tension clips on the front of my boards and put the line about halfway in. Never had one break off and I use 15# test big game green. The key (IMO) is to grab the rod, hold the spool and give it a quick "buggy whip" as soon as you grab the rod. It should pop right out and then wait a few seconds for it to drop back before you start reeling.

My regular fishing partner loves the Sam's pro releases, and they work great as well. I will say, do not use the cheap red ones, as those suck, big time! The black plastic is hard and slippery on those and they are hard to keep the line wrapped. If you use the real black ones, you will be fine. Just takes a minute to get the tension right and then you are good.

One more tip, I switched all my rear releases to the Bluewater tackle releases and they are great. They are similar to the red Off-shore clips, but they have an aluminum pin in the middle that won't wear out and it is easier to remove when you have a fish.

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Yes, I know how to pop the line. I do it the same way.

Just moving the spring in the OR-19s (orange releases that come with the boards), to the middle position, reduces the tension, making it easier to release the line. The further forward it is, the more tension there is, so moving it back releases some tension. I hadn't done that on my first try with them, when I was using the Sunline. I could keep using the Sunline, now that I know that, but I've already swapped out line on all the reels, so I'll keep using the Big Game for now. I still might switch back, eventually, because I do like the Sunline better...the line diameter is much closer to the PTD line used in their data, too.

As for the rear release...I like the Snapper (OR-18), because on cold days, when the hands are really cold, it's so much easier to press the lever up with my thumb, than to squeeze a release. It also has the ability for me to adjust the tension, if needed. And, it's easier for my customers...many, for some reason, can't get the line behind the pin, but don't tell me until I notice it. I can't have that happening when the line is released from the front arm. I don't want to be chasing boards.

Also, on a side note...I'm the Director of the Off Shore Tackle Pro Staff, for Ohio, so I don't think they would approve of me using someone else's releases on the boards. :)

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Originally Posted by Capt Juls

Yes, I know how to pop the line. I do it the same way.

Just moving the spring in the OR-19s (orange releases that come with the boards), to the middle position, reduces the tension, making it easier to release the line. The further forward it is, the more tension there is, so moving it back releases some tension. I hadn't done that on my first try with them, when I was using the Sunline. I could keep using the Sunline, now that I know that, but I've already swapped out line on all the reels, so I'll keep using the Big Game for now. I still might switch back, eventually, because I do like the Sunline better...the line diameter is much closer to the PTD line used in their data, too.

As for the rear release...I like the Snapper (OR-18), because on cold days, when the hands are really cold, it's so much easier to press the lever up with my thumb, than to squeeze a release. It also has the ability for me to adjust the tension, if needed. And, it's easier for my customers...many, for some reason, can't get the line behind the pin, but don't tell me until I notice it. I can't have that happening when the line is released from the front arm. I don't want to be chasing boards.

Also, on a side note...I'm the Director of the Off Shore Tackle Pro Staff, for Ohio, so I don't think they would approve of me using someone else's releases on the boards. :)

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Understood! The OR-18s work great, but they are a bit pricey. Otherwise I would probably use them on mine too. They don't have a pin though, do you ever have any issues with them coming off? That is the other reason I have been reluctant to use them on the back. I am testing the Scheels cam style releases on the back of some of mine, and so far, so good. They are similar to the OR-18s in how they operate, but they have a slot that the line goes into so it can't come out until the cam is opened up. But again, I understand that you can't use them.

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Originally Posted by fishfinder

I bought the black ones, Sam's, but I also got some of the cheaper red ones (Before I read this lol) They might work for me since I only go out three or four times a year. Time will tell.

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Good luck with them. I bought 8 of them and they all ended up at the bottom of a trash can. If you can figure out how to make them work for you, great. I was sick of wrapping the line and having it all come right off before I could even deploy them. When I did get it wrapped correctly, they would typically not release properly and I would end up with tangles, etc. I went back to the black OR releases on the front of mine. I can set them in 2 seconds and they pop for me every time. If I was using braid, I would use the Sam's Pro releases for sure.

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Originally Posted by slimshady

They don't have a pin though, do you ever have any issues with them coming off?

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Oh, but they DO have a pin. If you push the lever forward instead of backwards, the pin sits in front of the release, instead of in the middle of it...keeping the line behind the pin, so you don't lose the board, if the line slips out of the pads, for whatever reason.

If that is happening, there is a tension screw underneath, so it can be tightened up again.

Thanks! I didn’t realize that they did that.