Why is it these smaller boats have to go full throttle through a group of jiggers ?? Jigging has slowed because there are so many doing this .. We all know your boats can move pretty fast but my question is why do they do it
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Why is it these smaller boats have to go full throttle through a group of jiggers ?? Jigging has slowed because there are so many doing this .. We all know your boats can move pretty fast but my question is why do they do it
Sometimes it's almost impossible not to. I was out last Wednesday and there were boats scattered everywhere. They don't tend to pack as much as perch fisherman. There were groups around some of the reefs so I wouldn't run through them but when boats are sprinkled everywhere from Locust to the ship channel it's hard not run on plane past somebody.
Interesting,several weeks ago read a post that a guy finally found a small pod of active fish when there was a lot of dirty water.Was doing well there when a group of jiggers set up on the spot.Poster said could not troll through that area anymore due to to many jigger had drifted,spot lock or anchored on the spot.Sounds like it was deep water and not on a reef.Maybe one of those trollers was getting even with those jiggers.
Mr Bob .. First.. While trolling if you ever troll in 12 foot of water you don’t full throttle through a 50 or more boats . Second ..this was not in the middle of the lake but on the shores of the lake .. Regardless even Perch fishing some do the same.. That is called no respect .. and yes it does spook fish and scatter them
I think sometimes people are rude, but most of the time they’re ignorant. Five years ago I never would have thought about driving safely by boats at any speed. I don’t live near the lake, so I think big lake edicate for fishing is difficult sometimes - like last year I was launching from Catawba and couldn’t even get out from the ramp for the hundreds of perch boats - am I supposed to go trolling speed all the way to south bass island? That’s about how far the boats were packed up, so I’m sorta being serious?
I get being upset by it, I do. But I also understand that if I’m close to a marina at all, somebody is going to zoom by sooner or later.
Sure its rude to fly thru boats drifting and jigging/casting.We dont do it and most dont but,as usual it takes just a few to ruin it for the rest.See it all the time driving and some on lake Erie.There can be times a pack is so huge,that it is near impossible to go around the pack.When i was driving i picked my widest holes to go thru and if i had to get close to someone,i would idle down.I tell the my buddies the same when im with them.And if were trolling,i tell them to stay clear of the drifting casters and never troll close enough for them to reach our lines with a cast.If we get too close i will yell an apology to the drifter and blame the driver.
there are no clear answers it a big lake and boaters can do better when under power.but im not driving5 miles out of my way to make sure someone doesnt get any wake from my boat,and jiggers and casters can be better about not setting up in the middle of trollers when they are working a active school of fish.i do see that alot. i have alot of charter boats come within 75 yards of me wide open and not a boat around for at least a mile away.i hate fishing packs.rather spend all day fishing than fighting other boats.
How is it then that one can Mark fish while on plane and make a turn and set up trolling back through the same line and catch fish if it’s scattered them and scared them into not biting. Seams like a lot of the time someone is looking for a reason that they are not catching and the boat on plane gets the blame I have fished the last few springs on the Roanoke river for stripers in 12-15’ feet of water with boats running full throttle within 50’ of other boats and everyone’s still catching
I'd say the ones who blast through the group are the same ones who " Make Ready" on the boat ramp. Most out there are considerate of others, but there is always a handful of selfish fools. I have other words I use, but not on the forum.
I always give the pack a wide birth and find me a hole. This for trollers, anchored, or drifting no matter. There is plenty of lake and plenty of time..
May be the rules we learned from golf could be applied in fishing
1 do not step in another persons putting line. example before you set up watch for trollers who are on a line coming your way its extremely hard to set up to troll and when some one sets up a drift or worse yet anchors in there path its going to cause unneeded problems
2 let the others ahead finish the hole before you tee off. example do not run to every net you see dip into the water if you want to follow a drift over active fish set up well behind the boats in that area every one takes there turn over the that area and you should not jump ahead
3 your not on tour so have fun its a big lake !
there are more but some else can add there Golf /fishing etiquette
[ˈedəkət, ˈedəˌket]
NOUN
the customary code of polite behavior in society or among members of a particular profession or group.
Yes, do not pick up another’s ball (planer board) and take off, especially when there are boats all over.
yep thats a good one :cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by ttinman23
You trollers really think there is a "hole" marked with fairways, tee and green to determine direction?Quote:
Originally Posted by MBLMIKE
You think everyone sees the same "pin" and stays out of your path?
You're not on tour either so if you see a drifter 1/8 a mile in front of you, adjust to their upwind side so as not to disrupt their drift.
Geeze you think everyone has your layout in front of them when they pick a drift?
I drift and troll and to be honest, I've seen 10 times as many A-hole trollers as drifters.
Yes it is a big lake so adjust before you run over another persons path.
Rickerd
Golf really! Usually don't comment much about the. trollers but I've been fishing this pond for the last 6o years & know every rock on both sides..Nothing against trolling know its extremely effective but not really fishing. Drifting and casting is a true art and all I do. You can cause an awful big tangle when someone passes within your casting distance. please give the drifters some space .your the one thats under power...
I totally agree ! Have not been at it as long as you only about 40 years for myself , as for myself I do not troll much mostly cast and drift fish in the shallow end of the pond.Quote:
Originally Posted by eriepro
I would like to apologize for the nerve this post has hit on no doubt the drifters and trollers have some things to work out .
My golf analogy was only to provide a comparison between the two sports I enjoy the time I get to be on the big lake despite the frustrations. were all in this together so just have fun "oh by the way I'm not very good at Golf either "
No Problem Mike, The lake sure has changed in the past 40 years from 90 percent casting to about that same percentage trolling. In the early 80s most charters left the dock around 8am now most leave before sun up. We had a 10 fish limit those days & we were usually back at the dock before lunch. Casting is still very productive but limits take a little more time. I throw mostly casting harnesses now compared to weight forward spinners. Rock fishing on the Canadian side was my favorite!!!
About spooking fish in shallow water, last summer in June I was fishing 12 to 20 fow Huron area. I had jets ski's buzzing me. A pontoon boat pulling water skiers. Numerous power boats flying by nearly running my boards over. We had a nice steady pick going catching fish close to shore, everyone else was miles off shore that day. Well the boat traffic disappeared and guess what the bite stopped. So I'm not sure boat traffic is the problem. As far as buzzing by someone have some respect.Quote:
Originally Posted by eriepro
correction it was in early August
No problem Mike, I have often made the analogy of golf when fishing rivers. Some people move upstream, some downstream, some stay put. People use bait, lures and people flyfish. I've encountered overcrowding rivers, especially in PA and MI waters, though I've never tried the Maumee. I've had more polite people on the rivers asking me if I want to squeeze between them and their buddy, 40 feet away, than I see on the big lake. I don't understand it. So much water and so many fish in the big lake.
I also think the metroparks in cleveland needs to have people move along the rivers in similar ways as a golf course. Take 45 minutes to play the hole, then move up or down and let someone else try the area. This would be similar to when the larger rivers with drift boats have people move downstream and leapfrog each other during the day. Although, the metroparks cannot even keep golfers moving so what makes me think they can direct fisherpersons during steelhead season right?
Hey, tight lines everyone,
I hope to get out this weekend for first time of the season.
Rickerd
Yes, & 50 yrs ago it was 90% trollers & 10 % casters. And 60 yrs ago it was probably 99.9% trollers & very few casters. Funny how stuff repeats itself.
shotgun, I think you got it mixed up. I remember fishing late 70s, 80s, and 90% were drifters. When I worked in sporting goods store early 90s, captains started trolling because "those dam mussels cleaned the whole lake and scattered the walleye!"
Rickerd
I know that this is 2021, but in simple math 2020-50= 1970. I can only comment on Ohio waters from Turtle creek to Vermilion. I lived on the beachfront west of Davis Besse from 1951- 1963. I fished nearly every day during the summer. Then I moved to Ruggles Beach & lived there from 1964 to 1976. I personally know of no one that casted for “pickerel” before 1968 But I know of a lot of people that trolled, including myself, my father, & several other relatives & neighbors. I know Captain Dan Galbincea & others started casting in the early 60’s, but his lure was not perfected & made commercially until the late 60’s. The boom in casting did not really take off until Ohio banned netting for walleye in 1970. With all due respect & IMHO
Why did so many of you troll when you could have casted for them;) ?
Gas was expensive back then from what I hear.
Rickerd
Rickerd, 1978 was the first year I had my captains license and have fished many times aboard the Erie Dearie with Danny also was on the last trip he made the day he passed away. The biggest switch to trolling came when the numbers crashed due to the mussels. To due well casting you had to be in pretty good physical shape making 100s of casts some days with your back and shoulders starting to ache buy boy it was fun!