just for the guys wondering about the water levels... headed up to the lake with dreamcatcher last night to check out water levels at turtle creek and the water is back and has made new ice so hopefully if we get another big west blow itll stay put.. but as of last night there is approx. 3-4 feet of water in turtle creek.. we will be checking on this and posting updates for anyone who is concerned and or doesnt want to drive up not knowing the situation.