nasty lil lake,im a resadent of irving,i check erie often.always rocken,our season is short enugh without the lake alwasys being rough.im sick of it.went out 7-25 got 2 yellows,took a beating though,only able to troll one direction cuz of 3-4 footers.how bout 7 bucks to launch?that makes me sick too.the only free launch is in silver creek,sand bar wont let you out unless your rig is 14 ft or less.oh well,everyone slips you the bone every chance the get.my e mail is [email protected] if you want some solid info,been workin these waters over 25 yrs,great season so far in spite of the lake cond.keep on rockin n rollin brothers(an sisters)