because I live 335 miles from Geneva and usually just make our 2 week trip in july or aug. them maybe a long week end trip in aug or early sept. I would love for erie to be close enough to fish it more but its not getting any closer, LOL. I live here in Muncie Indiana close to my sons and grandkids and wouldn't have it any other way. and it costs a small fortune for me to make the trip up there. back when I had fishing buddies that helped with gas I made several trips a year. but all the old guys that I fished with back then are dead now. so its just my oldest son and me paying the bill.