fished 8 -2 tried 24 ft moved to 22 ft moved in to 20 ft tried 16 ft 3 guys 12 perch all 9 inches to 11 but very slow on the bright side sold 3000 spreaders last week im going to offer them on here to you guys we have 3/4 ounce 1 ounce 1 1/2 ounce and 2 ounce with no bling on them we can make them any way you want them we have no spreaders without weight but were working on that but cant find a swivel that will fit the heavy gauge wire that we have it has to have a least a 55 thousands whole in the middle barrel please let me know if any body knows with the info all spreaders made with stainless steel and is heavy wire but again if you want smaller wire with blades or beads and you need 25 to a thousand or more let me know